Re: attosecond science

From	moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: attosecond science
Date	2016-11-30 18:07 +0000
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john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Michael
>"
>From the shapes of molecules, we already know the shapes electronic 
>orbitals take.  They aren't discs.  Methane, CH4, for example, has 
>the central C with a tetrahedral configuration. "

>Yes, I
>tried and tried to find a
>tetrahedron in the 1:2 pattern-
>couldn't do it.
>Perhaps it's in a more esoteric
>standing wave, like 6:13- I don't know-

Or perhaps precessing spinny things is just a bunch of kookbabble
created by your OCD.

Meanwhile, the Schrödinger equation, which is based on actual science,
not OCD, is very successful at predicting the shapes and positions of
orbitals, and therefore molecules. Not just methane, but benzene and
very complex ones.  Why is CCl4 tetrahedral but the PtCl4-- ion square
planar? Schrödinger has the answer.

>I don't have computing power like that.

That's not how science works. You don't try every possibility until
you can produce a pretty .gif full of spinny things.  You come up
with an idea that potentially solves some question of science and
then derive an experiment that can tell the difference between your
idea and the old/standard one, then do it.

What problem are you trying to solve with spinny things? If you
have no answer, you are wasting your time.

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attosecond science john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 20:56 -0800
  attosecond science john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 21:33 -0800
    Re: attosecond science moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-30 15:45 +0000
      Re: attosecond science john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-30 08:09 -0800
        Re: attosecond science john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-30 09:53 -0800
          Re: attosecond science Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-30 12:13 -0600
          Re: attosecond science edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-11-30 15:50 -0800
            Re: attosecond science john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-11-30 18:59 -0800
              Re: attosecond science edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-11-30 21:10 -0800
              Re: attosecond science moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-01 12:47 +0000
                Re: attosecond science edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-12-01 07:15 -0800
                Re: attosecond science john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 07:24 -0800
                Re: attosecond science HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 07:58 -0800
                Re: attosecond science Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 10:57 -0600
                Re: attosecond science john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 09:10 -0800
                Re: attosecond science Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 11:54 -0600
                Re: attosecond science john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 10:08 -0800
                Re: attosecond science Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 12:40 -0600
                Re: attosecond science john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 10:47 -0800
                Re: attosecond science Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 13:28 -0600
                Re: attosecond science HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 11:40 -0800
                Re: attosecond science edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-12-01 11:28 -0800
                Re: attosecond science Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 13:32 -0600
                Re: attosecond science john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 12:55 -0800
                Re: attosecond science Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 15:26 -0600
                Re: attosecond science john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 13:36 -0800
                Re: attosecond science HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 13:42 -0800
                Re: attosecond science Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 15:48 -0600
                Re: attosecond science john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 14:19 -0800
                Re: attosecond science Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 16:22 -0600
                Re: attosecond science john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 15:23 -0800
                Re: attosecond science john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 15:47 -0800
                Re: attosecond science john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 06:34 -0800
                Re: attosecond science Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 09:43 -0600
                Re: attosecond science Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 08:43 -0600
                Re: attosecond science john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 06:53 -0800
                Re: attosecond science moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-02 15:15 +0000
                Re: attosecond science Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 09:44 -0600
                Re: attosecond science HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 08:12 -0800
                Re: attosecond science john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 08:56 -0800
                Re: attosecond science Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 11:31 -0600
                Re: attosecond science Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 12:09 -0600
                Re: attosecond science john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 10:36 -0800
                Re: attosecond science Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 12:42 -0600
                Re: attosecond science Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 12:55 -0600
                Re: attosecond science Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 16:56 -0600
                Re: attosecond science john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 15:40 -0800
                Re: attosecond science HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-12-03 05:35 -0800
                Re: attosecond science john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-03 10:19 -0800
                Re: attosecond science HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-12-03 13:35 -0800
                Re: attosecond science john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-03 18:24 -0800
                Re: attosecond science HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-12-03 18:41 -0800
                Re: attosecond science benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-12-03 22:30 -0500
                Re: attosecond science moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-04 05:36 +0000
                Re: attosecond science noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 17:50 -0800
                Re: attosecond science Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 08:08 -0600
                Re: attosecond science john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 08:09 -0800
                Re: attosecond science Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 10:24 -0600
                Re: attosecond science john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 09:21 -0800
                Re: attosecond science Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 11:40 -0600
                Re: attosecond science john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 10:01 -0800
                Re: attosecond science Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 12:10 -0600
                Re: attosecond science HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 11:17 -0800
                Re: attosecond science HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 12:00 -0800
                Re: attosecond science edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-12-02 12:27 -0800
                Re: attosecond science Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 14:54 -0600
                Re: attosecond science john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 13:12 -0800
                Re: attosecond science Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 16:49 -0600
                Re: attosecond science Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 08:40 -0600
                Re: attosecond science edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-12-01 14:16 -0800
                Re: attosecond science edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-12-01 11:25 -0800
                Re: attosecond science john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 11:29 -0800
                Re: attosecond science Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 13:34 -0600
                Re: attosecond science edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-12-01 14:13 -0800
                Re: attosecond science moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-12-01 17:08 +0000
                Re: attosecond science edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-12-01 11:19 -0800
                Re: attosecond science Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 08:31 -0800
            b0s0n is what ... b0s0ns d00 noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 12:15 -0800
              just cahnge the variables, such that b0s0ny is what ... b0s0ns d00 noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-12-02 14:02 -0800
        Re: attosecond science moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-30 18:07 +0000
          Re: attosecond science noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-11-30 12:06 -0800
  attosecond science HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 11:05 -0800
  Re: attosecond science "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 09:31 -0800
    Re: attosecond science "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 10:02 -0800
      Re: attosecond science "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-12-05 12:02 -0800
  Re: attosecond science "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 09:55 -0800
    Re: attosecond science "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-12-05 12:09 -0800

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