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Re: h the Planck message in a bottle

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
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Subject Re: h the Planck message in a bottle
Date 2016-11-26 09:41 -0600
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On 11/22/2016 4:06 AM, jaymoseley@hotmail.com wrote:
> Odd bodkin..
>
>>>> Sorry, but no. Nobody has come up with a classical theory of the atom
>>>> that replicates the spectrum, for example. If you claim somebody has,
>>>> point to the published work. If you can't, then my point stands.
>>
>>> Resonance is a well understood field of physics that can explain
>>> any particular spectral profile of an atom.
>
>> You have not shown that. All you have is a statement of FAITH that
>> somewhere in the concept of resonance should be the explanation for the
>> spectrum of the atom. You cannot do it yourself. Therefore all you have
>> is a desire that someone ELSE do the work you believe should be done.
>
> Faith? Fact you mean.

No, faith. If you have references to published work where the concept of 
resonance generates an explanation for the spectrum of the atom, produce it.

I'm not interested in papers that just demonstrate that resonance 
happens. I'm interested in papers that demonstrate that resonance can 
account for the spectrum of the atom. Please provide.

> It is you who believe photons exist with no
> experimental evidence. Whereas waves and resonance have
> already been observed and quantified in many different ways.
> Interference patterns, frequencies,.. these can easily be explained
> by waves. Not by individual particles.
>
> Spectra have for many years been accepted as a product of emr
> of different wavelengths/frequencies. I didn't make this up.

Why do they have the particular frequencies they do in helium? A 
reference that generates the predicted numbers for those frequencies 
based on a resonance model please. Produce it.

> And resonating systems respond to and produce waves of
> particular frequencies. That is observed. So an atom as a resonating
> system will produce wave based radiation that will create a spectra.
> And when looked at closely, all atoms only exhibit resonant properties.
> Like waves,oscillations ,frequencies etc.
> Put these together and you have all the evidence necessary to show
> atoms are resonant systems producing wave based radiation of
> particular spectral profiles. To deny this ignores centuries of scientific
> study.
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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h the Planck message in a bottle John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 07:11 -0700
  Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Albert2 <Alber@2.invalid> - 2016-11-04 13:38 +0100
    Re: h the Planck message in a bottle mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-04 05:53 -0700
      Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Albert2 <Alber@2.invalid> - 2016-11-04 15:33 +0100
        Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 16:15 +0100
          Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-11-04 12:53 -0500
            Re: h the Planck message in a bottle "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-04 11:20 -0700
            Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 19:25 +0100
            Re: h the Planck message in a bottle John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2016-11-12 18:47 -0800
              Re: h the Planck message in a bottle jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-11-13 23:28 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 08:44 +0100
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 22:22 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 07:36 +0100
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-11-17 07:23 +0100
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 02:50 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-11-17 09:11 -0600
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Edwin Grünner <edwgr@menckensite.org> - 2016-11-17 22:03 +0000
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 19:25 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-17 19:39 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-11-17 22:22 -0600
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Hank Barco <hankbarco@hankbarco.org> - 2016-11-18 21:35 +0000
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 15:58 -0600
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Hank Barco <hankbarco@hankbarco.org> - 2016-11-18 22:04 +0000
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 23:06 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-11-19 11:25 +0000
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2016-11-19 08:59 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-11-20 00:19 +0000
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2016-11-20 10:27 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-11-20 22:37 +0000
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2016-11-20 16:55 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-11-21 05:26 +0000
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 00:23 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-11-21 09:20 +0000
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 03:08 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-11-21 13:09 +0000
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 12:17 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 07:40 +0100
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2016-11-20 23:56 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 09:07 +0100
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 00:48 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 11:09 +0100
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 03:13 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 12:45 +0100
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Maryann Tonn <libradaz@libradazert.info> - 2016-11-21 12:16 +0000
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 13:29 +0100
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Maryann Tonn <libradaz@libradazert.info> - 2016-11-21 12:44 +0000
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 11:34 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 22:15 +0100
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 14:27 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Shayne Crownover <vrrrnveeaeoowSy@vrrrnveeae.owSy.vrr> - 2016-11-26 22:33 +0000
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 23:54 +0100
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 17:44 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-11-19 19:14 +0000
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-11-21 11:35 -0600
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Maryann Tonn <libradaz@libradazert.info> - 2016-11-21 19:18 +0000
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-11-22 09:39 +0000
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-11-17 00:22 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-11-17 09:57 -0600
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 10:02 -0600
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-11-18 04:05 +0000
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 07:36 -0600
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-18 05:56 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-11-18 18:49 +0000
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-11-18 00:02 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 07:40 -0600
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-11-21 00:53 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-21 08:14 -0600
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-11-22 02:06 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-22 02:27 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-11-22 12:08 +0000
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-11-23 06:13 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-11-24 05:54 +0000
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-11-24 07:01 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-11-24 20:01 +0000
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 11:10 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Lauretta Nagle <uattea@aeuatte.au> - 2016-12-17 18:24 +0000
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2016-12-18 08:11 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-12-18 09:07 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 09:41 -0600
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle "David (Lord Kronos) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-26 07:59 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-11-27 04:50 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-28 08:30 -0600
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle jaymoseley@hotmail.com - 2016-11-18 00:15 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-20 21:50 +0100
            Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Albert2 <Alber@2.invalid> - 2016-11-25 22:53 +0100
              Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 08:10 +0100
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 08:14 +0100
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-26 12:26 +0000
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 22:07 +0100
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-11-28 11:32 -0600
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Reggie Sippel <SippieoRRpSg@Sippie.RRpSg.Sip> - 2016-11-28 17:43 +0000
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Reggie Sippel <SippieoRRpSg@Sippie.RRpSg.Sip> - 2016-11-28 17:50 +0000
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-28 20:06 +0100
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Reggie Sippel <SippieoRRpSg@Sippie.RRpSg.Sip> - 2016-11-28 19:11 +0000
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-28 21:52 +0100
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Reggie Sippel <SippieoRRpSg@Sippie.RRpSg.Sip> - 2016-11-28 21:01 +0000
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-28 22:20 +0100
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle "David (Lord Kronos Prime) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-28 13:02 -0800
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-28 20:01 +0100
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Reggie Sippel <SippieoRRpSg@Sippie.RRpSg.Sip> - 2016-11-28 19:06 +0000
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-28 21:50 +0100
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Reggie Sippel <SippieoRRpSg@Sippie.RRpSg.Sip> - 2016-11-28 21:01 +0000
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-28 22:18 +0100
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Reggie Sippel <SippieoRRpSg@Sippie.RRpSg.Sip> - 2016-11-28 22:26 +0000
        Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-11-04 17:35 +0100
          Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Albert2 <Alber@2.invalid> - 2016-11-04 21:36 +0100
            Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-11-04 22:03 +0100
              Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Albert2 <Alber@2.invalid> - 2016-11-07 22:33 +0100
                Re: h the Planck message in a bottle mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-07 22:58 -0800
      Re: h the Planck message in a bottle moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-11-04 14:41 +0000
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          Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-11-04 10:42 -0700
            Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-11-04 22:00 +0100
        Re: h the Planck message in a bottle Albert2 <Alber@2.invalid> - 2016-11-04 21:46 +0100
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  Re: h the Planck message in a bottle numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-11-19 14:47 -0800
    Re: h the Planck message in a bottle "David (Lord Kronos) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-19 15:11 -0800
  Re: h the Planck message in a bottle numbernumber1964@gmail.com - 2016-11-19 15:30 -0800
    Re: h the Planck message in a bottle "David (Lord Kronos) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-19 15:42 -0800
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  Re: h the Planck message in a bottle nero <oldogf@yahoo.it> - 2016-11-23 23:37 -0800
    Re: h the Planck message in a bottle nero <oldogf@yahoo.it> - 2016-11-25 00:28 -0800
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