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Re: This is your guru

From	Steven Carlip <carlip@physics.ucdavis.edu>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics
Subject	Re: This is your guru
Date	2016-11-21 19:16 -0800
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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On 11/21/16 7:00 AM, Maryann Tonn wrote:
> Steven Carlip wrote:

>> 3. Try responding to content, rather than looking for semantic tricks.

> I would opt for 3. if I were you.

Excellent!  We agree.  So here's what to do -- look at the paper
by Low that I cited (online at https://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9812067),
read it, and tell me specifically where you think he made a mistake.

> On to the subject, gravity cannot possibly travel at any speed, since is a
> geometry, curvature in GR, hence similar to the projection of a shadow. No
> matter how fast or slow you shake your head, its shadow will never leave
> the association with your head. Your gravity "field" is to Matter/Mass
> what a Shadow is for an opaque object.

Not the best analogy, but it will do for a start.  Suppose your head
is casting a shadow on a wall a meter away.  When you move your head,
do you think the shadow moves instantaneously?

Steve Carlip

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This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-16 00:09 -0800
  Re: This is your guru Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-16 10:52 +0100
    Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-16 02:41 -0800
      Re: This is your guru Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-16 11:43 +0100
        Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-16 03:49 -0800
          Re: This is your guru Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-16 13:18 +0100
            Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-16 04:48 -0800
              Re: This is your guru JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 21:54 -0800
                Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-16 23:19 -0800
                Re: This is your guru JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 23:32 -0800
                Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-16 23:38 -0800
                Re: This is your guru JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 00:14 -0800
                Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-17 00:38 -0800
                Re: This is your guru JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 10:37 -0800
                Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-17 22:36 -0800
    Re: This is your guru Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-11-16 10:26 -0600
      Re: This is your guru Kieth Staudt <KiethS@StaudtInstitute.info> - 2016-11-16 18:12 +0000
      Re: This is your guru Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-16 19:28 +0100
      Re: This is your guru JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 21:57 -0800
        Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-16 23:34 -0800
          Re: This is your guru JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 00:23 -0800
            Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-17 03:37 -0800
              Re: This is your guru JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 10:39 -0800
                Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-17 22:50 -0800
                Re: This is your guru JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 23:52 -0800
                Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-18 00:53 -0800
                Re: This is your guru JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 12:28 -0800
                Re: This is your guru Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-11-19 10:07 +0100
                Re: This is your guru Marion Vanriper <Marion@Vanriper.info> - 2016-11-26 09:30 +0000
        Re: This is your guru Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-11-17 10:09 -0600
  Re: This is your guru JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 12:11 -0800
    Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-16 23:14 -0800
      Re: This is your guru JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 23:35 -0800
        Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-16 23:52 -0800
          Re: This is your guru JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 00:25 -0800
            Re: This is your guru paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 03:59 -0800
              Re: This is your guru "Dan S. MacAbre" <no@way.com> - 2016-11-17 12:12 +0000
                Re: This is your guru Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-18 05:07 +0100
                Re: This is your guru "Dan S. MacAbre" <no@way.com> - 2016-11-18 10:02 +0000
                Re: This is your guru Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-18 22:13 +0100
                Re: This is your guru "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-18 21:46 -0800
                Re: This is your guru "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-11-19 09:30 +0100
                Re: This is your guru Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-11-19 10:01 -0600
                Re: This is your guru "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-19 08:07 -0800
                Re: This is your guru Norberto Haman <norberman@norberman.info> - 2016-11-19 16:37 +0000
                Re: This is your guru Steven Carlip <carlip@physics.ucdavis.edu> - 2016-11-20 09:37 -0800
                Re: This is your guru Norberto Haman <norberman@norberman.info> - 2016-11-20 20:32 +0000
                Re: This is your guru Steven Carlip <carlip@physics.ucdavis.edu> - 2016-11-20 15:54 -0800
                Re: This is your guru Maryann Tonn <libradaz@libradazert.info> - 2016-11-21 15:00 +0000
                Re: This is your guru Steven Carlip <carlip@physics.ucdavis.edu> - 2016-11-21 19:16 -0800
                Re: This is your guru Maryann Tonn <libradaz@libradazert.info> - 2016-11-22 10:39 +0000
                Re: This is your guru paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-11-22 03:16 -0800
                Re: This is your guru Maryann Tonn <libradaz@libradazert.info> - 2016-11-22 11:24 +0000
                Re: This is your guru Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-11-22 12:13 +0000
                Re: This is your guru benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-22 17:37 -0500
                Re: This is your guru Steven Carlip <carlip@physics.ucdavis.edu> - 2016-11-22 22:57 -0800
                Re: This is your guru Dusty Kollman <uberdriver@uberdriver.info> - 2016-11-23 13:37 +0000
                Re: This is your guru paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 06:04 -0800
                Re: This is your guru Dusty Kollman <uberdriver@uberdriver.info> - 2016-11-23 14:27 +0000
                Re: This is your guru paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 06:44 -0800
                Re: This is your guru Dusty Kollman <uberdriver@uberdriver.info> - 2016-11-23 14:56 +0000
                Re: This is your guru Steven Carlip <carlip@physics.ucdavis.edu> - 2016-11-23 10:46 -0800
                Re: This is your guru Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-23 23:21 +0100
                Re: This is your guru Bob Goodman <bobg@boobgodman.info> - 2016-11-23 22:58 +0000
                Re: This is your guru Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-25 20:00 +0100
                Re: This is your guru Bernardo Dearmond <bnard@dearmond.org> - 2016-11-25 21:46 +0000
                Re: This is your guru Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-25 22:56 +0100
                Re: This is your guru "David (Lord Kronos) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-23 20:13 -0800
                Re: This is your guru Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 09:24 -0600
                Re: This is your guru Dusty Kollman <uberdriver@uberdriver.info> - 2016-11-23 15:33 +0000
                Re: This is your guru Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-23 23:23 +0100
                Re: This is your guru "David (Lord Kronos) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-23 20:15 -0800
                Re: This is your guru Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-25 20:05 +0100
                Re: This is your guru "David (Lord Kronos) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-25 14:57 -0800
                Re: This is your guru Dusty Kollman <uberdriver@uberdriver.info> - 2016-11-23 18:28 +0000
                Re: This is your guru Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 19:37 +0100
                Re: This is your guru Dusty Kollman <uberdriver@uberdriver.info> - 2016-11-23 18:39 +0000
                Re: This is your guru "David (Lord Kronos) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-21 22:40 -0800
                Re: This is your guru Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-11-19 10:47 -0600
                Re: This is your guru Norberto Haman <norberman@norberman.info> - 2016-11-19 17:20 +0000
              Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-17 04:37 -0800

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