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Re: This is your guru

From Norberto Haman <norberman@norberman.info>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics
Subject Re: This is your guru
Date 2016-11-20 20:32 +0000
Organization Norberto Haman Institute of Applied Mathematics
Message-ID <o0t19k$128b$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink)
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Steven Carlip wrote:

>>> In General Relativity, CHANGES in gravity due to the motion of a mass
>>> are propagated with speed c at distances in the "far zone" (i.e.
>>> distance >>
>>
>> There is nothing in GR specifying or demanding the above.
> 
> Of course there is.  For weak fields, Einstein already showed
> that this was a consequence of the field equations in 1916.
> The proof is simple enough -- you can find it in any GR textbook.
> For strong fields, you have to be a little careful about how to
> describe a change in gravity, but there's a nice general proof
> by Low, Class. Quant. Grav. 16 (1999) 543-549, arXiv:gr-qc/9812067.

What fields, GR is not about fields. Reread your books immediately. What 
Einstein did then was strongly presumable something under his Aether 
umbrella. You too misunderstood the entire process.

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This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-16 00:09 -0800
  Re: This is your guru Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-16 10:52 +0100
    Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-16 02:41 -0800
      Re: This is your guru Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-16 11:43 +0100
        Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-16 03:49 -0800
          Re: This is your guru Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-16 13:18 +0100
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                Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-17 22:36 -0800
    Re: This is your guru Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-11-16 10:26 -0600
      Re: This is your guru Kieth Staudt <KiethS@StaudtInstitute.info> - 2016-11-16 18:12 +0000
      Re: This is your guru Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-16 19:28 +0100
      Re: This is your guru JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 21:57 -0800
        Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-16 23:34 -0800
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            Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-17 03:37 -0800
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                Re: This is your guru JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 23:52 -0800
                Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-18 00:53 -0800
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                Re: This is your guru Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-11-19 10:07 +0100
                Re: This is your guru Marion Vanriper <Marion@Vanriper.info> - 2016-11-26 09:30 +0000
        Re: This is your guru Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-11-17 10:09 -0600
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    Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-16 23:14 -0800
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        Re: This is your guru mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-11-16 23:52 -0800
          Re: This is your guru JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 00:25 -0800
            Re: This is your guru paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 03:59 -0800
              Re: This is your guru "Dan S. MacAbre" <no@way.com> - 2016-11-17 12:12 +0000
                Re: This is your guru Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-18 05:07 +0100
                Re: This is your guru "Dan S. MacAbre" <no@way.com> - 2016-11-18 10:02 +0000
                Re: This is your guru Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-18 22:13 +0100
                Re: This is your guru "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-18 21:46 -0800
                Re: This is your guru "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-11-19 09:30 +0100
                Re: This is your guru Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-11-19 10:01 -0600
                Re: This is your guru "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-19 08:07 -0800
                Re: This is your guru Norberto Haman <norberman@norberman.info> - 2016-11-19 16:37 +0000
                Re: This is your guru Steven Carlip <carlip@physics.ucdavis.edu> - 2016-11-20 09:37 -0800
                Re: This is your guru Norberto Haman <norberman@norberman.info> - 2016-11-20 20:32 +0000
                Re: This is your guru Steven Carlip <carlip@physics.ucdavis.edu> - 2016-11-20 15:54 -0800
                Re: This is your guru Maryann Tonn <libradaz@libradazert.info> - 2016-11-21 15:00 +0000
                Re: This is your guru Steven Carlip <carlip@physics.ucdavis.edu> - 2016-11-21 19:16 -0800
                Re: This is your guru Maryann Tonn <libradaz@libradazert.info> - 2016-11-22 10:39 +0000
                Re: This is your guru paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-11-22 03:16 -0800
                Re: This is your guru Maryann Tonn <libradaz@libradazert.info> - 2016-11-22 11:24 +0000
                Re: This is your guru Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2016-11-22 12:13 +0000
                Re: This is your guru benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-11-22 17:37 -0500
                Re: This is your guru Steven Carlip <carlip@physics.ucdavis.edu> - 2016-11-22 22:57 -0800
                Re: This is your guru Dusty Kollman <uberdriver@uberdriver.info> - 2016-11-23 13:37 +0000
                Re: This is your guru paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 06:04 -0800
                Re: This is your guru Dusty Kollman <uberdriver@uberdriver.info> - 2016-11-23 14:27 +0000
                Re: This is your guru paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 06:44 -0800
                Re: This is your guru Dusty Kollman <uberdriver@uberdriver.info> - 2016-11-23 14:56 +0000
                Re: This is your guru Steven Carlip <carlip@physics.ucdavis.edu> - 2016-11-23 10:46 -0800
                Re: This is your guru Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-23 23:21 +0100
                Re: This is your guru Bob Goodman <bobg@boobgodman.info> - 2016-11-23 22:58 +0000
                Re: This is your guru Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-25 20:00 +0100
                Re: This is your guru Bernardo Dearmond <bnard@dearmond.org> - 2016-11-25 21:46 +0000
                Re: This is your guru Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-25 22:56 +0100
                Re: This is your guru "David (Lord Kronos) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-23 20:13 -0800
                Re: This is your guru Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 09:24 -0600
                Re: This is your guru Dusty Kollman <uberdriver@uberdriver.info> - 2016-11-23 15:33 +0000
                Re: This is your guru Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-23 23:23 +0100
                Re: This is your guru "David (Lord Kronos) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-23 20:15 -0800
                Re: This is your guru Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-11-25 20:05 +0100
                Re: This is your guru "David (Lord Kronos) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-25 14:57 -0800
                Re: This is your guru Dusty Kollman <uberdriver@uberdriver.info> - 2016-11-23 18:28 +0000
                Re: This is your guru Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-11-23 19:37 +0100
                Re: This is your guru Dusty Kollman <uberdriver@uberdriver.info> - 2016-11-23 18:39 +0000
                Re: This is your guru "David (Lord Kronos) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-11-21 22:40 -0800
                Re: This is your guru Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-11-19 10:47 -0600
                Re: This is your guru Norberto Haman <norberman@norberman.info> - 2016-11-19 17:20 +0000
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