Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar

From	David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar
Date	2016-11-18 15:47 +0100
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On 18/11/16 15:24, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 18/11/16 13:28, David Brown wrote:
>> On 18/11/16 13:23, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>>> On 18/11/16 12:16, David Brown wrote:
>>>> [...] I have my Windows
>>>> machine and my Linux machine running continuously at my office - they
>>>> both have average uptimes of a couple of months or so.
>>>
>>> I guess, then, that you don't run Firefox on them. Either that, or you
>>> have one hell of a magic wand.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I restart Firefox on occasion, on both machines (the old version I have
>> on my Linux machine has a memory leak, so it needs restarted every two
>> or three days.  Either that, or I should tidy up the dozen windows with
>> a total of perhaps 50 or 60 tabs that are open all the time).
>>
>> But restarting Firefox does not mean restarting the computer.
> 
> It does, sometimes (at least for me). If I fail to spot in time that
> Firefox's memory and CPU usage are increasing exponentially, the whole
> machine freezes, and there's nothing for it but to hold down the power
> button for a while.
> 
> Am I the only one who has this problem? And is there an active newsgroup
> where the subject is topical and likely to lead to a solution?
> 

If Firefox has leaked too much on Linux, it usually means things start
to end up on swap.  That can sometimes cause a lot of slowdown (but
often the memory on swap is the "lost" memory, and that is of little
problem.  But eventually yes, too much lost memory leads to needing a
restart.  In theory, the Linux kernel might still be running and the
out-of-memory-killer can handle it, but when cpu hogs and swap slow down
the system enough, then it is effectively dead.

If you are leaving the computer on but not in use, you can always pause
the firefox process, then continue it when you are on the machine again.
 You could even arrange to do so automatically as a "screen saver".

killall -s STOP firefox
killall -s CONT firefox

I expect there is a way to do this on Windows too, but I don't know what
it might be.

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Experimental languages/features for C or similar Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 03:07 -0800
  Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-11-08 13:25 +0100
    Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 05:47 -0800
      Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-11-08 21:03 +0100
        Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 12:10 -0800
          Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-11-08 21:17 +0100
            Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 13:27 -0800
              Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-11-09 11:19 +0100
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2016-11-09 03:00 -0800
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-11-09 09:04 -0800
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2016-11-09 09:57 -0800
  Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 05:16 -0800
    Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-11-08 06:22 -0800
      Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 06:52 -0800
        Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 07:08 -0800
          Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-11-08 07:47 -0800
      Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 08:13 -0800
        Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 08:48 -0800
        Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 03:21 -0800
  Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 22:16 +0800
    Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 08:00 -0800
      Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-09 00:13 +0800
        Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-11-08 08:41 -0800
          Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2016-11-08 08:50 -0800
            Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2016-11-08 17:10 +0000
  Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-11-08 19:06 +0100
  Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar Andreas <nospam@invalid.invalid> - 2016-11-08 21:43 +0100
  Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar luser droog <luser.droog@gmail.com> - 2016-11-10 12:29 -0800
    Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2016-11-11 02:35 -0800
    Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-11-11 10:43 +0000
      Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-11-17 20:15 +0100
        Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-11-17 11:59 -0800
          Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-11-17 22:27 +0100
            Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-11-17 22:45 +0100
            Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-11-17 14:28 -0800
              Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-11-18 00:13 +0100
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-11-17 15:37 -0800
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 09:29 +0000
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-11-18 21:59 +0100
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 21:14 +0000
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-11-18 22:38 +0100
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-11-18 11:26 +0100
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-11-18 08:56 -0800
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-11-18 08:16 +0100
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-11-18 11:42 +0100
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-11-18 13:16 +0100
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-11-18 12:23 +0000
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-11-18 14:28 +0100
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-11-18 14:24 +0000
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2016-11-18 14:34 +0000
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-11-18 14:37 +0000
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 14:38 +0000
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-11-18 15:47 +0100
                [OT] Linux and Firefox "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 22:50 +0800
                Re: Window$ and Firefox "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 22:51 +0800
                Re: taskkill "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 22:52 +0800
                Re: taskkill David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-11-18 16:44 +0100
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-11-18 15:11 +0000
                Re: Who cares (about Window$)? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 23:24 +0800
                Re: Who cares (about Window$)? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-11-18 16:41 +0100
                Re: Who cares (about Window$)? Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-18 16:45 +0100
                Re: Who cares (about Window$)? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-11-18 17:35 +0100
                Re: Who cares (about Window$)? Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com> - 2016-11-18 13:10 -0400
                Re: Who cares (about Window$)? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-18 18:29 +0000
                Re: Who cares (about Window$)? jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-11-18 11:49 -0800
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2016-11-18 11:42 -0800
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-11-19 20:37 +0000
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 12:34 +0000
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-11-18 13:46 +0100
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-11-18 13:44 +0100
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-11-18 14:44 +0100
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-11-19 01:16 +0100
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-11-19 15:43 +0100
                Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-11-19 18:13 +0100
            Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-11-18 00:16 +0000
              Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2016-11-18 09:25 +0100
          Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-11-18 18:15 +0000
            Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 19:18 +0000
        Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-11-18 08:20 +0100
  Re: Experimental languages/features for C or similar "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 20:36 +0800

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