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Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android?

From Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net>
Newsgroups misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android?
Date 2016-11-05 02:34 +0000
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On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 01:38:50 +0000 (UTC), Horace Algier wrote:

>  On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 06:42:46 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:
> airdrop,
> applepay, 
> sandboxing, 
> continuity,
> handoff, 


The iOS guys can't find a single bit of functionality that is on iOS that
isn't already on Android.

But, they suggested the following:
1. airdrop,
2. applepay, 
3. sandboxing, 
4. continuity,
5. handoff,

Noticing that Apple users can't think outside of Apple MARKETING trademarks,
we need to look at the FUNCTIONALITY that is described in the trademarks
above that the Apple users propose as "functionality" that is on iOS (all by
itself) that is not on Android (all by itself).

We have already debunked the Airdrop ad hoc file transfer services
functionality since they also abound on Android (e.g., ShareIt, FileDrop,
AirDroid, Google Cast, Google Bump, Google Copresence, Beam, etc.).

We also handily debunked the Apple Pay trademarked service which is just an
electronic payment system, which also abounds on Android (e.g., Android Pay,
Google Wallet, PayPass, Samsung Pay, Barclaycard bPay, EE Cash on Tap, V.me,
etc.).

What should we tackle next?

Sandboxing is a special case, since the power and flexibility of Android
file system access means that there is so much that the iOS user can't do
with respect to the file system, redirects, direct edits, links, direct
edits, saving files, saving APKs, direct copies, etc., that to say
sandboxing file system access is a "functionality" is to also say that
"having more complete access to the file system" is the same functionality,
only implemented differently.

So, that's a wash, in so much as nobody on Android would ever *want* to be
so restricted as iOS users are, with respect to lack of access to the file
system by themselves and all the apps.

So, we'll just call sandboxing/file-system-access the two sides of the same
functional coin. It's the same functionality, implemented with different
philosophies. 

To be sure, there are pros to sandboxing, and there are utterly astoundingly
huge cons, just like there are pros to having access to the file system by
all apps and there are huge cons too.

This isn't the thread to debate pros and cons of the file system access
methods; it's merely a thread to find something (anything) that iOS does by
way of functionality that Android doesn't already do.

Both do file system access.

So we can't count the extremely limited access to the file system on iOS as
a functionality that Android doesn't have - because - there isn't anyone on
Android who would *want* to have their hands tied, their feet tied, and even
their fingers tied to each other, from the perspective of the apps.

It's just file system access done philosophically differently.

In summary, both iOS and Android have a method for file system access, where
iOS is supremely restricted by design, and Android is rather open by design,
which is to say they both have file system access functionality - but done
entirely differently.

So what we're left to look at are:
a. Continuity
b. Handoff

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Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 05:04 +0000
  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 15:57 +1000
    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 17:15 +0000
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 04:50 +1000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier  <HoraceAlgier@nowhere.com> - 2016-11-01 01:38 +0000
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-31 22:33 -0400
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 02:38 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-31 22:49 -0400
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-01 04:15 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 16:17 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:55 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:05 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 00:48 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 12:33 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-04 06:56 +0100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:54 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:05 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 00:48 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 12:33 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-01 16:37 -0400
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-01 22:24 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 08:32 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-02 16:15 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 22:37 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-03 01:08 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 18:02 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-04 19:57 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 13:09 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 21:55 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:54 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:05 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 02:23 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 13:41 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-01 12:25 -0400
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? John Carter <me@mymailsvr.org> - 2016-11-12 05:16 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 14:49 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:54 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:03 +1100
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 14:30 +1100
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:54 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:02 +1100
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-01 12:25 -0400
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 03:21 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 14:51 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-04 06:58 +0100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 17:00 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-04 07:09 +0100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Hankat" <hyes342@nospam.com> - 2016-11-04 17:19 +1100
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 03:21 +0000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 14:46 +1100
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-04 00:15 -0400
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-05 02:34 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-04 23:57 -0400
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-05 12:54 +0000
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-05 02:34 +0000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-05 16:20 +1100
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-05 07:10 +0100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-05 17:54 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2016-11-05 16:49 -0500
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-06 06:17 +0100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Jack Johnson" <jhj34d@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 19:35 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-06 09:42 +0100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Jack Johnson" <jhj34d@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 21:01 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-06 11:57 +0100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Jack Johnson" <jhj34d@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 07:23 +1100
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 03:05 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 14:26 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 03:53 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 15:54 +1100
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 03:33 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 15:51 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 05:11 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 19:32 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 21:55 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 09:12 +1100
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 05:19 +0000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 19:33 +1100
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 21:54 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 09:11 +1100
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-07 19:23 +0000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-10 19:29 +0000
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 00:27 +0000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-11 15:26 +0000
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-09-08 09:13 +1200
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-07 22:21 +0000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2016-09-07 18:20 -0500
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-09-08 13:21 +1200
    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 09:52 +0000
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 20:34 +1000
  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-07 08:48 -0400
  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2016-09-07 10:46 -0400
    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 09:50 +0000
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 20:32 +1000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 18:53 +0000
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 07:02 +1000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 16:54 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-13 13:00 -0400
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-13 17:50 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 04:46 +1000
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-11 11:23 -0400
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 18:53 +0000
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-11 14:55 -0400
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 16:54 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 04:49 +1000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-14 10:03 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 20:24 +1000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-14 19:50 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 05:57 +1000
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 06:52 +1000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 16:54 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-13 13:00 -0400
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 04:43 +1000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-14 10:03 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 20:22 +1000
  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-09-10 21:12 -0400
    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 09:48 +0000
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-11 11:22 -0400
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 18:53 +0000

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