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Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android?

From Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net>
Newsgroups misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android?
Date 2016-11-01 02:38 +0000
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2016 22:33:55 -0400, nospam wrote:

>> We've long ago debunked the airdrop myth.
> 
> it's not a myth. it's something android cannot do. period.

You Apple guys fall for meaningless trademarks every single time!
AirDrop is just ad hoc services, which were on Android first.

This is a post made with respect to your AirDrop claim.

------------------------------------------
Let's take "AirDrop® ad hoc services" first.

There is no such thing as "Airdrop".
Apple says so themselves.
http://www.apple.com/legal/intellectual-property/trademark/appletmlist.html

Just like RCA and ThinkPad are trademarks that are bought and sold among
companies (none of which are currently from the "original" RCA or IBM), the
word you use is merely a meaningless M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G "adjective" which
Apple *bought* on Thursday, July 08, 2010 from another company.

- Apple Officially Acquires ´AirDrop¡ Trademark
http://www.mactrast.com/2011/06/apple-officially-acquires-airdrop-trademark/
http://www.trademarkia.com/airdrop-85080406.html

Apple M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G also registered the *logo* on March 7, 2013
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2013/03/apples-airdrop-logo-is-now-a-registered-trademark.html

Where the point is that it's a purely  M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G  tool that, in and
of itself, is entirely meaningless (just as "Tylenol", in and of itself, is
entirely meaningless and can be used for *anything* J&J wants to use it for
just as Techron is used for a ton of unrelated products).

It's  M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G Rod.
Pure unadulterated (and very clever) M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G .

Which means it means nothing. It means whatever Apple MARKETING wants it to
mean. And they clearly say it means nothing in and of itself.

The fact is that Apple says you must "include an appropriate generic term
after the trademark the first time it appears. Thereafter, the generic term
should appear frequently with the trademark."

This is no different than any other M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G trademark much as
Adobe and Ford and Mercury and Techron and Tylenol, etc.

For you to succumb so readily to meaningless M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G is a
problem, because M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G's job is to feed you manure and your job
is to pay for that manure (while Apple corporate laughs all the way to the
bank).

OK. So we've shown that you must always follow the meaningless trademark
with meaningful generic functionality.

The generic term for what the AirDrop® "software feature" does is called
"ad hoc services":
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AirDrop
 - The AirDrop® software feature is an ad hoc service.

An ad hoc service is defined here:
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_ad_hoc_network
 - Smart phone ad hoc networks leverage the existing hardware (primarily
Bluetooth and Wi-Fi) in commercially available smart phones to create
peer-to-peer networks without relying on cellular carrier networks,
wireless access points, or traditional network infrastructure. SPANs differ
from traditional hub and spoke networks, such as Wi-Fi Direct, in that they
support multi-hop relays and there is no notion of a group leader so peers
can join and leave at will without destroying the network.

*Clearly Android has ad hoc services.*

In fact, the Android ad hoc services work both inside and outside the
walled garden, whereas the AirDrop® brand ad hoc services only work
*inside* the walled garden.

So clearly, not only does Android have plenty of modern ad hoc services,
but Android had them before Apple ever bought the exclusive rights to use
the word "AirDrop®" as a legal trademark adjective for its limited
primitive brand of ad hoc services. 

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Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 05:04 +0000
  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 15:57 +1000
    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 17:15 +0000
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 04:50 +1000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier  <HoraceAlgier@nowhere.com> - 2016-11-01 01:38 +0000
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-31 22:33 -0400
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 02:38 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-31 22:49 -0400
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-01 04:15 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 16:17 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:55 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:05 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 00:48 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 12:33 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-04 06:56 +0100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:54 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:05 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 00:48 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 12:33 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-01 16:37 -0400
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-01 22:24 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 08:32 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-02 16:15 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 22:37 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-03 01:08 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 18:02 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-04 19:57 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 13:09 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 21:55 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:54 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:05 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 02:23 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 13:41 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-01 12:25 -0400
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? John Carter <me@mymailsvr.org> - 2016-11-12 05:16 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 14:49 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:54 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:03 +1100
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 14:30 +1100
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-01 15:54 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-02 03:02 +1100
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-01 12:25 -0400
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 03:21 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 14:51 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-04 06:58 +0100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 17:00 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-04 07:09 +0100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Hankat" <hyes342@nospam.com> - 2016-11-04 17:19 +1100
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-04 03:21 +0000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-04 14:46 +1100
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-04 00:15 -0400
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-05 02:34 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-04 23:57 -0400
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-05 12:54 +0000
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-05 02:34 +0000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-05 16:20 +1100
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-05 07:10 +0100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-05 17:54 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2016-11-05 16:49 -0500
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-06 06:17 +0100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Jack Johnson" <jhj34d@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 19:35 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-06 09:42 +0100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Jack Johnson" <jhj34d@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 21:01 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2016-11-06 11:57 +0100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Jack Johnson" <jhj34d@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 07:23 +1100
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 03:05 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 14:26 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 03:53 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 15:54 +1100
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 03:33 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 15:51 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 05:11 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 19:32 +1100
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 21:55 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 09:12 +1100
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 05:19 +0000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 19:33 +1100
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net> - 2016-11-06 21:54 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-07 09:11 +1100
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-07 19:23 +0000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-10 19:29 +0000
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 00:27 +0000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-11 15:26 +0000
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        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-07 22:21 +0000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2016-09-07 18:20 -0500
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-09-08 13:21 +1200
    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 09:52 +0000
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 20:34 +1000
  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-07 08:48 -0400
  Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2016-09-07 10:46 -0400
    Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 09:50 +0000
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 20:32 +1000
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 18:53 +0000
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 07:02 +1000
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 16:54 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-13 13:00 -0400
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-13 17:50 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 04:46 +1000
      Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-11 11:23 -0400
        Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 18:53 +0000
          Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-11 14:55 -0400
            Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-13 16:54 +0000
              Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 04:49 +1000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-14 10:03 +0000
                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 20:24 +1000
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                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 05:57 +1000
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                Re: Is there a single bit of functionality on iOS that isn't already on Android? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 20:22 +1000
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