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| From | GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( |
| Date | 2016-10-31 12:01 -0600 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <nv80so$kjm$9@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | (6 earlier) <e7ngpuF81uuU1@mid.individual.net> <nv7gd0$pk2$2@dont-email.me> <e7p0nhFi8psU3@mid.individual.net> <nv7rga$43f$1@dont-email.me> <e7pb76Fkv6fU2@mid.individual.net> |
On 10/31/16 10:52, Jim Polaski wrote: > On 2016-10-31, Silver Slimer<> wrote: >> On 2016-10-31 9:53 AM, Jim Polaski wrote: >>> On 2016-10-31, Silver Slimer<> wrote: >>>> On 2016-10-30 8:15 PM, Jim Polaski wrote: >>>>> On 2016-10-30, Melzzzzz<mel@zzzzz.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Sun, 30 Oct 2016 18:58:34 -0400 >>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom<OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 30 Oct 2016 20:50:12 GMT >>>>>>>> Jim Polaski<jpolaski@linuxmail.org> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2016-10-30, Melzzzzz<mel@zzzzz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 30 Oct 2016 11:24:32 +0000 (UTC) >>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz<Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have tried kernel 4.8.5 in orther to switch from trusty 4.7, >>>>>>>>>>> but alas got BUG softlockup on CPU(s) during rsync. Have to >>>>>>>>>>> hard reset, switched back to 4.7... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hm, it seems that it is zfs bug after all. Just had messages >>>>>>>>>> regarding zfs on 4.7 ;( >>>>>>>>>> Returned to 4.8 to test further, but it seems kernel is ok as I >>>>>>>>>> had problems with rsync from zfs on 4.7 either.... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sometimes I think you Linux dweebs would be bored if Linux >>>>>>>>> actually worked. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It does work. I use it for about 90% of my computing. >>>>>> >>>>>> He simply neglects that I run bleeding edge everything, so problems are >>>>>> expected ... I think I have found culprit. It's if i ran two instances >>>>>> of rsync bug happens. And it is zfs related... >>>>> >>>>> So then you can't be using Linux for anything important. >>>>> Unless tinkering with Linux is important to you. >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Constant fun flatfish! ;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> He should go somewhere else and promote Windows. Or maybe help >>>>>>> out the Gates Foundation. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> He promotes Window alright ;) >>>>> >>>>> People can choose to use Linux if they desire to. >>>>> They don't. >>>>> The reason is Linux sucks as a desktop system and all the lying and half >>>>> truths told by the Linux herd can't change that. >>>>> >>>>> When something given away for free is shunned by some 99 percent of >>>>> computer users it's time to reevaluate that product and make changes in >>>>> order to make the product more appealing to the market. >>>>> It will never happen though. Linux will continue to fragment, cause >>>>> division of the users (can you say systemd?) and so forth. >>>> >>>> Use GTK or use QT? Use Mir or use Wayland? It never ends with the >>>> controversies in the Linux camp. >>> >>> Th infighting is harming Linux as a whole. If anything it makes the >>> Linux users and developers look like spoiled babies. >>> And they are. >> >> The "advocates" will tell you that it doesn't matter whether you prefer >> QT or GTK as the programs of one will work in the environment of the >> other as long as the dependencies are installed. Those dependencies, >> however, don't prevent programs from one library from looking completely >> off in the environment of the other. These programs usually ignore >> personalization choices and any other settings your system might have. >> As or Wayland vs. Mir, this is a situation where both camps would >> clearly have benefited from working together rather than competing for >> what is essentially the same thing. If they had, we'd have a finished >> product instead of two shoddy, unstable and unfinished ones. > > Exactly. > Linux does a lot of different things. > The problem is it doesn't do them well. > Linux has 15 crappy, inconsistent DE vs one quality, consistent DE like > OSX or Windows. > > >>>>> And with complete idiots like Chris Ahlstrom, William Poaster, 7, chrisv >>>>> and many others like them "advocating" Linux, Microsoft has nothing to >>>>> worry about. >>>> >>>> At the very least, Linux will appear to be the choice of closet >>>> homosexuals, transsexuals and idiots. >>> >>> Someone should create a Linux distribution for sexually confused Linux >>> users and call it : >>> >>> "TrannyLinux" >>> >>> Or "TransLix". >> >> You seem to be suggesting that there is such a thing as a Linux user who >> _isn't_ sexually confused. > > Better yet! > The distribution will be at the top of Distrowatch in no time! > > >>>>> For Microsoft it's like a war against 5 different armys where one has >>>>> the guns, another has the bullets, another has the maps, another the >>>>> petrol and the last has the trucks to transport the troops. The problem >>>>> is none of the armys talk to each other. >>>>> That's Linux. >>>> >>>> Like the Soviet army during the Second World War. >>> >>> Yes. >>> >>>>> And that's why Linux has been stagnating as a desktop system since the >>>>> day it was born. >>>> >>>> To be fair, it's improved but it's still a gigantic distance from where >>>> it should be. >>> >>> Sure Linux has improved. It's where Windows XP's last version was about >>> 10 years ago. >>> And that's a maybe. >> >> Mind you, XP was ridiculously stable AND fast which is one of the many >> reasons people still hold onto it to this day. Linux is not stable >> though it is very fast if you choose the right desktop environment. So >> it still doesn't compare too well to Windows XP. > > And then there is that pesky topic of applications. > There is one thing I noticed about OS X... they have violated their own GUI guidlines. In TextEdit, there used to be "Save As...", but it is now gone in El Capitan. Now there is just "Save". So how does one save an Untitled file with a new name? You have to use the menu item Move. Really dumb one.
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kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-30 11:24 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 06:14 -0700
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-30 09:39 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 06:50 -0700
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 06:54 -0700
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-30 14:12 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-30 10:30 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-30 14:40 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-30 12:49 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-30 18:41 +0000
You are not fooling anyone, Mr. Maggot. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 15:21 -0700
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-30 10:27 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-30 09:49 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-10-30 13:49 +0000
Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 06:57 -0700
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-30 14:11 +0000
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-30 15:35 +0100
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-30 10:38 -0400
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-30 14:45 +0000
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-30 12:50 -0400
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-30 18:42 +0000
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-30 17:31 -0400
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-01 10:58 -0700
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-30 16:11 +0000
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-30 19:46 +0000
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-30 16:04 -0400
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 20:52 +0000
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-30 21:54 +0100
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-30 22:42 +0100
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 18:08 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-30 15:33 +0100
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-30 12:47 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-30 18:38 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-30 10:14 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-30 14:24 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-30 10:26 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-31 07:32 -0500
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-31 12:59 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-30 15:26 +0100
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-30 14:31 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-30 16:09 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-30 21:47 +0100
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-30 20:50 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-30 22:06 +0100
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-30 21:09 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-30 18:58 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-31 00:51 +0100
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-31 00:15 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-31 09:19 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-31 13:53 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-31 12:29 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-31 16:52 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-10-31 12:01 -0600
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-31 18:05 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-31 18:12 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-31 15:08 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-31 19:27 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-31 23:44 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-10-31 20:25 -0600
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-31 22:43 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-11-01 17:17 -0600
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-01 19:21 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-01 16:46 -0700
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 17:33 -0700
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-02 08:05 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-10-31 20:24 -0600
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( fr314159@gmail.com - 2016-10-31 06:22 -0700
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-31 13:29 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-10-31 12:02 -0600
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-31 18:10 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-31 19:46 +0100
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-31 18:58 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-31 21:25 +0100
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-01 03:49 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-31 13:54 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-10-31 12:02 -0600
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-31 01:10 +0100
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-31 10:50 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-01 12:56 -0400
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