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| From | Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( |
| Date | 2016-10-31 16:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <e7pb76Fkv6fU2@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (5 earlier) <20161031005159.12d92f95@maxa-pc.cpe.bvcom.net> <e7ngpuF81uuU1@mid.individual.net> <nv7gd0$pk2$2@dont-email.me> <e7p0nhFi8psU3@mid.individual.net> <nv7rga$43f$1@dont-email.me> |
On 2016-10-31, Silver Slimer <> wrote: > On 2016-10-31 9:53 AM, Jim Polaski wrote: >> On 2016-10-31, Silver Slimer <> wrote: >>> On 2016-10-30 8:15 PM, Jim Polaski wrote: >>>> On 2016-10-30, Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 30 Oct 2016 18:58:34 -0400 >>>>> Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 30 Oct 2016 20:50:12 GMT >>>>>>> Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2016-10-30, Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 30 Oct 2016 11:24:32 +0000 (UTC) >>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have tried kernel 4.8.5 in orther to switch from trusty 4.7, >>>>>>>>>> but alas got BUG softlockup on CPU(s) during rsync. Have to >>>>>>>>>> hard reset, switched back to 4.7... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hm, it seems that it is zfs bug after all. Just had messages >>>>>>>>> regarding zfs on 4.7 ;( >>>>>>>>> Returned to 4.8 to test further, but it seems kernel is ok as I >>>>>>>>> had problems with rsync from zfs on 4.7 either.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sometimes I think you Linux dweebs would be bored if Linux >>>>>>>> actually worked. >>>>>> >>>>>> It does work. I use it for about 90% of my computing. >>>>> >>>>> He simply neglects that I run bleeding edge everything, so problems are >>>>> expected ... I think I have found culprit. It's if i ran two instances >>>>> of rsync bug happens. And it is zfs related... >>>> >>>> So then you can't be using Linux for anything important. >>>> Unless tinkering with Linux is important to you. >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Constant fun flatfish! ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> He should go somewhere else and promote Windows. Or maybe help >>>>>> out the Gates Foundation. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> He promotes Window alright ;) >>>> >>>> People can choose to use Linux if they desire to. >>>> They don't. >>>> The reason is Linux sucks as a desktop system and all the lying and half >>>> truths told by the Linux herd can't change that. >>>> >>>> When something given away for free is shunned by some 99 percent of >>>> computer users it's time to reevaluate that product and make changes in >>>> order to make the product more appealing to the market. >>>> It will never happen though. Linux will continue to fragment, cause >>>> division of the users (can you say systemd?) and so forth. >>> >>> Use GTK or use QT? Use Mir or use Wayland? It never ends with the >>> controversies in the Linux camp. >> >> Th infighting is harming Linux as a whole. If anything it makes the >> Linux users and developers look like spoiled babies. >> And they are. > > The "advocates" will tell you that it doesn't matter whether you prefer > QT or GTK as the programs of one will work in the environment of the > other as long as the dependencies are installed. Those dependencies, > however, don't prevent programs from one library from looking completely > off in the environment of the other. These programs usually ignore > personalization choices and any other settings your system might have. > As or Wayland vs. Mir, this is a situation where both camps would > clearly have benefited from working together rather than competing for > what is essentially the same thing. If they had, we'd have a finished > product instead of two shoddy, unstable and unfinished ones. Exactly. Linux does a lot of different things. The problem is it doesn't do them well. Linux has 15 crappy, inconsistent DE vs one quality, consistent DE like OSX or Windows. >>>> And with complete idiots like Chris Ahlstrom, William Poaster, 7, chrisv >>>> and many others like them "advocating" Linux, Microsoft has nothing to >>>> worry about. >>> >>> At the very least, Linux will appear to be the choice of closet >>> homosexuals, transsexuals and idiots. >> >> Someone should create a Linux distribution for sexually confused Linux >> users and call it : >> >> "TrannyLinux" >> >> Or "TransLix". > > You seem to be suggesting that there is such a thing as a Linux user who > _isn't_ sexually confused. Better yet! The distribution will be at the top of Distrowatch in no time! >>>> For Microsoft it's like a war against 5 different armys where one has >>>> the guns, another has the bullets, another has the maps, another the >>>> petrol and the last has the trucks to transport the troops. The problem >>>> is none of the armys talk to each other. >>>> That's Linux. >>> >>> Like the Soviet army during the Second World War. >> >> Yes. >> >>>> And that's why Linux has been stagnating as a desktop system since the >>>> day it was born. >>> >>> To be fair, it's improved but it's still a gigantic distance from where >>> it should be. >> >> Sure Linux has improved. It's where Windows XP's last version was about >> 10 years ago. >> And that's a maybe. > > Mind you, XP was ridiculously stable AND fast which is one of the many > reasons people still hold onto it to this day. Linux is not stable > though it is very fast if you choose the right desktop environment. So > it still doesn't compare too well to Windows XP. And then there is that pesky topic of applications.
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kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-30 11:24 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 06:14 -0700
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-30 09:39 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 06:50 -0700
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 06:54 -0700
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-30 14:12 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-30 10:30 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-30 14:40 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-30 12:49 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-30 18:41 +0000
You are not fooling anyone, Mr. Maggot. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 15:21 -0700
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-30 10:27 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-30 09:49 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-10-30 13:49 +0000
Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 06:57 -0700
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-30 14:11 +0000
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-30 15:35 +0100
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-30 10:38 -0400
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-30 14:45 +0000
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-30 12:50 -0400
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-30 18:42 +0000
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-30 17:31 -0400
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-01 10:58 -0700
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-30 16:11 +0000
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-30 19:46 +0000
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-30 16:04 -0400
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 20:52 +0000
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-30 21:54 +0100
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-30 22:42 +0100
Re: Melzzzzz must be just some kind of a Linux idiot ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 18:08 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-30 15:33 +0100
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-30 12:47 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-30 18:38 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-30 10:14 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-30 14:24 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-30 10:26 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-31 07:32 -0500
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-31 12:59 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-30 15:26 +0100
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-30 14:31 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-30 16:09 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-30 21:47 +0100
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-30 20:50 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-30 22:06 +0100
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-30 21:09 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-30 18:58 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-31 00:51 +0100
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-31 00:15 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-31 09:19 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-31 13:53 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-31 12:29 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-31 16:52 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-10-31 12:01 -0600
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-31 18:05 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-31 18:12 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-31 15:08 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-31 19:27 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-31 23:44 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-10-31 20:25 -0600
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-31 22:43 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-11-01 17:17 -0600
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-01 19:21 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-01 16:46 -0700
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-11-01 17:33 -0700
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-02 08:05 -0400
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-10-31 20:24 -0600
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( fr314159@gmail.com - 2016-10-31 06:22 -0700
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-31 13:29 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-10-31 12:02 -0600
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-31 18:10 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-31 19:46 +0100
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-10-31 18:58 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-31 21:25 +0100
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-01 03:49 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-31 13:54 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-10-31 12:02 -0600
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-31 01:10 +0100
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-31 10:50 +0000
Re: kernel 4.8 still bugged ;( DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-01 12:56 -0400
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