Re: Raindrop Gravity

From	Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: Raindrop Gravity
Date	2016-10-31 18:53 +0100
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Dne 31/10/2016 v 18:35 jay moseley napsal(a):
> Poutnik Fornntp


> 
>> But this point fails at quantum level. 
> 
> As usual you have no proof of this. What experiment 
> proves this imaginary assumption of yours?

1905 - Einstein - photoelectricity effect and many later experiments
of quantum physic and chemistry. Wave only classical light theory
is dead for very long time.

> If it's something like the Delayed choice quantum eraser experiment
> then you are out of luck. This is an experiment that plays with polarisation
> only and is consistent at all levels with a classical model. 
> Like OAM and SAM.
> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_KekfbrzO74

A light beam of power P and frequency f
provides P/(h.f) photons, each of AM -1/0/+1 . h.
therefore maximum rate of providing SAM related to the polarization
is +/- P/f

OAM of light can provide OM rate +/- N . P/f
with OM / per photon n . f

> 
>> You confuse intrinsic photon angular momentum 
>> with angular momentum of collective photon propagation. 
> 
> No I don't. You never mentioned individual vs groups of photons . 
> You said above that an OAM beam has angular momentum several
> times bigger than a spin angular momentum beam. What could that mean
> but greater angular momentum for the OAM light beam. And I responded
> by saying that this is an interesting fact (if it were true.)
> You never specified that you meant a group of photons have more 
> momentum than an individual photon. 
> If you had, I would have not responded to something so obvious.
> 
Yes, it is obvious tha OM n., abs(n) > 1
cannot be provided by polarization.

-- 
Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )
Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.

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