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Re: No Apple Cars afterall ...

From	Desk Rabbit <me@example.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: No Apple Cars afterall ...
Date	2016-10-19 15:52 +0100
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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On 18/10/2016 19:41, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 18, 2016 at 9:40:03 AM UTC-6, Desk Rabbit wrote:
>> On 18/10/2016 16:34, deplorable owl wrote:
>>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>>>> On 18/10/2016 16:10, deplorable owl wrote:
>>>>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 18/10/2016 15:54, deplorable owl wrote:
>>>>>>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 18/10/2016 13:58, deplorable owl wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 17/10/2016 21:32, deplorable owl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/10/2016 18:43, fr314159@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 1:04:46 PM UTC-4, ronb wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  "concept of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> self-driving cars" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The self-driving car is one of the most idiotic ideas to emerge
>>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no way that I would ever allow myself to be transported
>>>>>>>>>>>>> by such a self-driving vehicle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My approach to driving is simple.  I never allow my car, and with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it my body, to move into an area where my eyes haven't already been
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 seconds previously.  This is known as "anticipatory" or "defensive"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> driving, and a self-driving vehicle could not ever accomplish the same.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> All round radar, distance sensors have a far better idea of what's going
>>>>>>>>>>>> on than your feeble brain could take in. Have you never driven an E
>>>>>>>>>>>> Class Mercedes with DISTRONIC? Oh silly me, you are a Linux user, you
>>>>>>>>>>>> can probably only afford a bike.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Especially in moderate to heavy traffic, a self-driving car could
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not scan the road thousands or even hundreds of feet ahead.  As a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> result a self-driving vehicle would be limited to impulsive accelerations
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and very quick braking.  The short reaction times, in addition to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> causing excessive wear and tear, could be fatally dangerous.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Except of course if there were more than one car in which case they
>>>>>>>>>>>> could communicate and share traffic data.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But self-driving cars are another great techno-gimmick and that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all that matters to the marketdroids that run most corporations.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Translation: They are rubbish because I'll never be able to afford to
>>>>>>>>>>>> own one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Self driving cars are the future. They are already being trialled in a
>>>>>>>>>>>> city near me, I'm looking forward to trying one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It is not the future in the US, because the people will not allow it.
>>>>>>>>>>> It will be child's play for any politician to campaign against such
>>>>>>>>>>> lunacy, and the end result will be that no state in the US will permit
>>>>>>>>>>> driverless cars.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The US is already turning into a backward, bigoted and insular country.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What does that fantasy have to do with driverless cars?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If Trump gets in (God forbid), it will just get worse.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When Trump gets in.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now the military will of course have this tech, because it makes sense
>>>>>>>>>>> to have supply vehicles that don't expose humans to IED dangers, as well
>>>>>>>>>>> as drone tanks, robot soldiers, etc.  And that is the whole point of
>>>>>>>>>>> this type of research.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They already have much of this tech fool. The battlefield and the
>>>>>>>>>> highway are entirely different.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Battlefields make use of highways, moron.  War takes place in the real
>>>>>>>>> world, not some fold-out game board.  There will never be driverless
>>>>>>>>> cars on American highways.  Maybe over there on Loon Island you tards
>>>>>>>>> will have them.  You already drive on the wrong side of the road after
>>>>>>>>> all. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ROFL! Clearly you have never seen a war zone outside of the cinema.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Moron.  Armies and their supply lines have always used existing
>>>>>>> roadways and rail lines where possible.  You really are clueless.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yup, they are cleared and level, patrolled so no IEDs. At the front,
>>>>>> transport lines are the first to go to impede the advancing army. Not
>>>>>> much point having your drone tanks and "Robot Soldiers" at the back!
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you trying to morph into Snit?  You used to take your beatings like
>>>>> a man.  This new you is unbecoming.
>>>>
>>>> Clearly you have lost the argument because instead of debating the
>>>> subject, you turn to attacking the author.
>>>>
>>>
>>> My objecting to your strawman of supply lines out front and armies at
>>> the rear is not "attacking the author."  What happened to your implied
>>> claim that highways and battlefields only meet in the "cinema"?
>>>
>>
>> You seem to have lost the plot. Have a re-read of the thread and have
>> another try.
> 
> I just read it... you made an ill conceived statement and now you're trying to pretend you didn't by shining the light elsewhere. We've seen enough of that from crackhead.
> 

Where? What did I say that you think was wrong?

Thread

No Apple Cars afterall ... ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 17:04 +0000
  Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-17 17:33 +0000
    Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-17 17:56 +0000
      Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-17 18:46 +0000
  Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... fr314159@gmail.com - 2016-10-17 10:43 -0700
    Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-17 21:17 +0100
      Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-17 20:32 +0000
        Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-17 17:22 -0600
        Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-18 09:53 +0100
          Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-18 12:58 +0000
            Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-18 15:29 +0100
              Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-18 14:54 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-18 16:02 +0100
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-18 15:10 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-18 16:20 +0100
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-18 15:34 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-18 16:40 +0100
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-18 15:54 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-18 11:41 -0700
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-19 15:52 +0100
              Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-18 11:39 -0700
              Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-18 14:08 -0600
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-19 15:53 +0100
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-19 14:04 -0600
            Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-20 11:58 -0400
              Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 17:32 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-20 12:30 -0600
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-10-21 02:31 -0700
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-21 12:49 -0600
              Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-28 09:58 -0400
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-28 15:24 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-29 09:19 -0400
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-29 16:04 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-29 16:40 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2016-10-29 16:57 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-30 09:44 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-29 17:09 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-29 13:27 -0400
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-30 09:45 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-30 07:08 -0400
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-30 14:18 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-30 12:49 -0400
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-30 18:47 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-31 09:16 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-31 05:38 -0400
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-31 10:41 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-31 12:30 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 11:42 -0700
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-31 21:49 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-31 08:51 -0500
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-29 11:56 -0700
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-29 16:27 -0400
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-30 09:48 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-30 09:51 -0400
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-30 14:22 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-30 10:28 -0400
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-31 09:14 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-29 22:15 +0100
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-30 09:49 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-28 15:37 +0000
          Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-18 14:07 -0600
      Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-10-18 14:12 +0000
        Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-18 09:16 -0500
        Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-18 15:30 +0100
        Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-18 16:49 +0200
  Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-18 06:59 -0500
    Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-18 08:00 -0400
  Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-19 13:00 -0400
    Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-19 20:30 +0200
      Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-10-19 18:45 +0000
  Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-01 09:44 -0700

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