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Re: No Apple Cars afterall ...

From deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: No Apple Cars afterall ...
Date 2016-10-18 15:54 +0000
Organization O.W.L.
Message-ID <hjagud03.ga3@rooftop.invalid> (permalink)
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Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
> On 18/10/2016 16:34, deplorable owl wrote:
>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>>> On 18/10/2016 16:10, deplorable owl wrote:
>>>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 18/10/2016 15:54, deplorable owl wrote:
>>>>>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 18/10/2016 13:58, deplorable owl wrote:
>>>>>>>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 17/10/2016 21:32, deplorable owl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/10/2016 18:43, fr314159@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 1:04:46 PM UTC-4, ronb wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  "concept of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> self-driving cars" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The self-driving car is one of the most idiotic ideas to emerge
>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no way that I would ever allow myself to be transported
>>>>>>>>>>>> by such a self-driving vehicle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My approach to driving is simple.  I never allow my car, and with
>>>>>>>>>>>> it my body, to move into an area where my eyes haven't already been
>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 seconds previously.  This is known as "anticipatory" or "defensive"
>>>>>>>>>>>> driving, and a self-driving vehicle could not ever accomplish the same.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> All round radar, distance sensors have a far better idea of what's going
>>>>>>>>>>> on than your feeble brain could take in. Have you never driven an E
>>>>>>>>>>> Class Mercedes with DISTRONIC? Oh silly me, you are a Linux user, you
>>>>>>>>>>> can probably only afford a bike.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Especially in moderate to heavy traffic, a self-driving car could
>>>>>>>>>>>> not scan the road thousands or even hundreds of feet ahead.  As a
>>>>>>>>>>>> result a self-driving vehicle would be limited to impulsive accelerations
>>>>>>>>>>>> and very quick braking.  The short reaction times, in addition to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> causing excessive wear and tear, could be fatally dangerous.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Except of course if there were more than one car in which case they
>>>>>>>>>>> could communicate and share traffic data.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But self-driving cars are another great techno-gimmick and that's
>>>>>>>>>>>> all that matters to the marketdroids that run most corporations.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Translation: They are rubbish because I'll never be able to afford to
>>>>>>>>>>> own one.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Self driving cars are the future. They are already being trialled in a
>>>>>>>>>>> city near me, I'm looking forward to trying one.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is not the future in the US, because the people will not allow it.
>>>>>>>>>> It will be child's play for any politician to campaign against such
>>>>>>>>>> lunacy, and the end result will be that no state in the US will permit
>>>>>>>>>> driverless cars.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The US is already turning into a backward, bigoted and insular country.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What does that fantasy have to do with driverless cars?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If Trump gets in (God forbid), it will just get worse.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When Trump gets in.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now the military will of course have this tech, because it makes sense
>>>>>>>>>> to have supply vehicles that don't expose humans to IED dangers, as well
>>>>>>>>>> as drone tanks, robot soldiers, etc.  And that is the whole point of
>>>>>>>>>> this type of research.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They already have much of this tech fool. The battlefield and the
>>>>>>>>> highway are entirely different.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Battlefields make use of highways, moron.  War takes place in the real
>>>>>>>> world, not some fold-out game board.  There will never be driverless
>>>>>>>> cars on American highways.  Maybe over there on Loon Island you tards
>>>>>>>> will have them.  You already drive on the wrong side of the road after
>>>>>>>> all. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ROFL! Clearly you have never seen a war zone outside of the cinema.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Moron.  Armies and their supply lines have always used existing
>>>>>> roadways and rail lines where possible.  You really are clueless.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yup, they are cleared and level, patrolled so no IEDs. At the front,
>>>>> transport lines are the first to go to impede the advancing army. Not
>>>>> much point having your drone tanks and "Robot Soldiers" at the back!
>>>>
>>>> Are you trying to morph into Snit?  You used to take your beatings like
>>>> a man.  This new you is unbecoming.
>>>
>>> Clearly you have lost the argument because instead of debating the
>>> subject, you turn to attacking the author.
>>>
>> 
>> My objecting to your strawman of supply lines out front and armies at
>> the rear is not "attacking the author."  What happened to your implied
>> claim that highways and battlefields only meet in the "cinema"?
>> 
> 
> You seem to have lost the plot. Have a re-read of the thread and have
> another try.

I'll get right on it, Snit.

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No Apple Cars afterall ... ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 17:04 +0000
  Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-17 17:33 +0000
    Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-17 17:56 +0000
      Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-17 18:46 +0000
  Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... fr314159@gmail.com - 2016-10-17 10:43 -0700
    Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-17 21:17 +0100
      Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-17 20:32 +0000
        Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-17 17:22 -0600
        Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-18 09:53 +0100
          Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-18 12:58 +0000
            Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-18 15:29 +0100
              Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-18 14:54 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-18 16:02 +0100
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-18 15:10 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-18 16:20 +0100
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-18 15:34 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-18 16:40 +0100
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-18 15:54 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-18 11:41 -0700
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-19 15:52 +0100
              Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-18 11:39 -0700
              Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-18 14:08 -0600
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-19 15:53 +0100
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-19 14:04 -0600
            Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-20 11:58 -0400
              Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-20 17:32 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-20 12:30 -0600
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-10-21 02:31 -0700
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-21 12:49 -0600
              Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-28 09:58 -0400
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-28 15:24 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-29 09:19 -0400
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-29 16:04 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-29 16:40 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2016-10-29 16:57 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-30 09:44 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-10-29 17:09 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-29 13:27 -0400
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-30 09:45 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-30 07:08 -0400
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-30 14:18 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-30 12:49 -0400
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-30 18:47 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-31 09:16 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-31 05:38 -0400
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-31 10:41 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-31 12:30 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-31 11:42 -0700
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-31 21:49 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-31 08:51 -0500
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-10-29 11:56 -0700
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-29 16:27 -0400
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-30 09:48 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-30 09:51 -0400
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-30 14:22 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-30 10:28 -0400
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-31 09:14 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-10-29 22:15 +0100
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-10-30 09:49 +0000
                Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-28 15:37 +0000
          Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-18 14:07 -0600
      Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-10-18 14:12 +0000
        Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-18 09:16 -0500
        Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-10-18 15:30 +0100
        Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-18 16:49 +0200
  Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-18 06:59 -0500
    Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-18 08:00 -0400
  Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-19 13:00 -0400
    Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-19 20:30 +0200
      Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-10-19 18:45 +0000
  Re: No Apple Cars afterall ... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-01 09:44 -0700

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