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Re: "Ordinary" Spin

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On 9/29/2016 1:20 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> On 9/29/2016 1:07 PM, john wrote:
>> Odd
>> Sorry about that.
>>
>> What do YOU think about the
>> idea that ordinary spin , as
>> we know it,
>> is actually Complex,
>> or combined spin
>> that has a precession of 0,
>> and so is 1:0 (rotation:precession).
>>
>> And other complex spins exist at
>> 1:1, 1:2, 1:3, etc?
>
> If you're talking about the "ordinary spin" of macroscopic objects like
> discs and bricks, then I think your idea is nothing new, and in fact you
> are missing "complex spins" like 1:1.4 and 1:3.53 and 1:0.022 which are
> actually observed in nature.
>
> If you are thinking this has anything to do with quantum mechanical
> spin, though.... no, I don't think this idea is able to demonstrate
> compatibility with observed behavior of atomic systems.
>
> So there's your choice: applies at the macro level but is old news and
> uninteresting; or doesn't apply at the micro level at all.

As an example of the "old news" in macro physics, John, I invite you to 
put a rubber band around a book so that it doesn't open, and then toss 
it in the air in different ways so that it is rotating about the 
different symmetry axes of the book (there are three). You will likely 
observe that two of them have stable rotation but one of them doesn't 
and it starts to wobble in what you would call "complex rotation". At 
this point, you might shout "Aha! Look at that! My complex rotation idea 
is validated!" But then I would invite you to go to the library and 
check out the oldest book you can find that has the classical mechanical 
treatment of the rotation of a rectangular prism like a book. What will 
it tell you if the copyright of that book was somewhere around your 
great-grandfather's birthyear?

>
>>
>> Baby idea, like Michael implies with
>> the drool comment?
>> Or minor epiphany?
>>
>
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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"Ordinary" Spin john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 10:48 -0700
  "Ordinary" Spin john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 14:51 -0700
  Re: "Ordinary" Spin moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-29 02:02 +0000
    Re: "Ordinary" Spin Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 19:29 -0700
      Re: "Ordinary" Spin "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 19:41 -0700
        Re: "Ordinary" Spin "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-09-28 20:09 -0700
        Re: "Ordinary" Spin john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 04:26 -0700
          Re: "Ordinary" Spin john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 07:33 -0700
            Re: "Ordinary" Spin moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-29 15:31 +0000
              Re: "Ordinary" Spin john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 08:39 -0700
                Re: "Ordinary" Spin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 11:07 -0500
                Re: "Ordinary" Spin john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 11:07 -0700
                Re: "Ordinary" Spin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 13:20 -0500
                Re: "Ordinary" Spin Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 13:27 -0500
                Re: "Ordinary" Spin noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 11:27 -0700
                Re: "Ordinary" Spin noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-10-02 20:41 -0700
      Re: "Ordinary" Spin moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-09-29 03:34 +0000
        Re: "Ordinary" Spin Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 11:03 -0700
  Re: "Ordinary" Spin "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 20:54 -0700
    Re: "Ordinary" Spin john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-09-29 23:11 -0700
  Re: "Ordinary" Spin "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 10:14 -0700
    Re: "Ordinary" Spin "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-09-30 11:06 -0700
    Re: "Ordinary" Spin "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 12:09 -0700
      Re: "Ordinary" Spin "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-09-30 12:55 -0700

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