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Re: Atheism is Witchcraft

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On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 05:14:55 +0200, Thomas Heger wrote:

> Am 20.09.2016 01:56, schrieb Smiler:
> 
>>>>>> I can make biblical type prophesies as accurate as any in the
>>>>>> bible. I prophesy, with 100% certainty, that it will rain within
>>>>>> the next 24 hours.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, yes. But the value of a prophecy increases with its
>>>>> usefulness.
>>>>
>>>> Do tell of a useful biblical prophesy, one not so vague as to be
>>>> useless.
>>>>
>>>>> If you are able to correctly predict the lottery numbers, you will
>>>>> certainly get more for your prophecies than for your weather
>>>>> forecast.
>>>>
>>>> Where did the bible make a prediction as specific as the lottery
>>>> numbers?
>>>
>>> The bible does not make predictions, you did.
>>
>> So "The meek shall inherit the Earth" isn't a prediction in your world?

Thanks for admitting you lied.

>>> You wrote:
>>> [Quote]
>>> "..I prophesy, with 100% certainty, that it will rain within the next
>>> 24
>>>    hours."
>>> [\Quote]
>>
>> Yep. No guesswork needed. It will again rain within the next 24 hours.
>> In fact, it will rain every day, for the remainder of this year.
>> Prove me wrong.
> 
> Don't want....

Your cowardice is noted.
 
> A statement like yours is true, because you failed to limit its
> validity. E.g. you have not specified, what 'rain' actually means.

Exactly as bible prophesies do.
 
> Does it also cover 'marshmallow rain'?

WTF is that? Is that like the supposed 'manna from heaven' that the 
Israelites ate whilst on their supposed exodus?
 
> And you have not specified the location 

Exactly as bible prophesies do.

> and the time.

Within the next 24 hours isn't specifying a time, in your world?
 
> So you made a valid prediction, which is of no value whatsoever.

Exactly as bible prophesies do.

> The value is higher, if the prediction is more specific.

Indeed. Please point out that sort of specific prediction/prophesy in the 
bible.

> And very high would be the numbers of the lottery of next week (or
> sports results, political events or similar).

No argument there, but nothing like that appears in the bible.
 
> This is so, because foreknowledge would allow successful bets and that
> could be rather profitable.

Indeed.

>>> You seem to confuse 'prophet' with 'fortune teller'.
>>
>> Specify the difference.
> 
> Predictions is, what scientists do (and fortune tellers). Prophets are
> teachers. 

So, in your world prophesies (that _is_ what prophets do) aren't 
predictions.

>And they would never bet, while fortune tellers actually try
> to create foreknowledge to make bets more profitable.

You've no idea about fortune tellers or gambling, have you?
 
>>> A typical prophet would be Mohammed or Buddha.  And what they did not
>>> do, was predicting the weather.
>>
>> But they probably predicted many other things.
>>
> No. A prophecy requires foreknowledge,

Like the foreknowledge that it will rain somewhere in the world within the 
following 24 hours?
Thanks for making me a prophet.
And, unlike biblical prophets, my prophesies come true.

> while fortune tellers use means like tea-leaves, Tarot cards or chicken
> bones.

You appear to be using bullshit.

-- 
Smiler, The godless one.
aa #2279
Gods are all tailored to order. They are made 
to exactly fit the prejudices of the believer.

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Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 00:20 +0000
  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 06:20 +0200
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 23:36 -0700
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 15:26 +0000
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 20:06 +0200
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-19 20:19 +0000
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 23:22 +0200
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-19 23:56 +0000
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ted&Alice <sam.m.tedesco@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 00:18 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-20 12:32 +0000
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-21 05:14 +0200
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-21 14:15 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-22 10:13 +1000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-22 04:03 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-09-22 11:51 -0500
                Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-22 11:04 -0600
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-22 14:10 -0400
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            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-09-20 17:58 -0400
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-21 01:03 +0000

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