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Re: Atheism is Witchcraft

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Am 20.09.2016 01:56, schrieb Smiler:

>>>>> I can make biblical type prophesies as accurate as any in the bible.
>>>>> I prophesy, with 100% certainty, that it will rain within the next 24
>>>>> hours.
>>>>
>>>> Well, yes. But the value of a prophecy increases with its usefulness.
>>>
>>> Do tell of a useful biblical prophesy, one not so vague as to be
>>> useless.
>>>
>>>> If you are able to correctly predict the lottery numbers, you will
>>>> certainly get more for your prophecies than for your weather forecast.
>>>
>>> Where did the bible make a prediction as specific as the lottery
>>> numbers?
>>
>> The bible does not make predictions, you did.
>
> So "The meek shall inherit the Earth" isn't a prediction in your world?
>
>> You wrote:
>> [Quote]
>> "..I prophesy, with 100% certainty, that it will rain within the next 24
>>    hours."
>> [\Quote]
>
> Yep. No guesswork needed. It will again rain within the next 24 hours.
> In fact, it will rain every day, for the remainder of this year.
> Prove me wrong.

Don't want....

A statement like yours is true, because you failed to limit its 
validity. E.g. you have not specified, what 'rain' actually means.

Does it also cover 'marshmallow rain'?

And you have not specified the location and the time.

So you made a valid prediction, which is of no value whatsoever.

The value is higher, if the prediction is more specific.

And very high would be the numbers of the lottery of next week (or 
sports results, political events or similar).

This is so, because foreknowledge would allow successful bets and that 
could be rather profitable.

>> You seem to confuse 'prophet' with 'fortune teller'.
>
> Specify the difference.


Predictions is, what scientists do (and fortune tellers). Prophets are 
teachers. And they would never bet, while fortune tellers actually try 
to create foreknowledge to make bets more profitable.

>> A typical prophet would be Mohammed or Buddha.  And what they did not
>> do, was predicting the weather.
>
> But they probably predicted many other things.
>
No. A prophecy requires foreknowledge, while fortune tellers use means 
like tea-leaves, Tarot cards or chicken bones.

TH

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Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 00:20 +0000
  Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 06:20 +0200
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2016-09-17 23:36 -0700
    Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-18 15:26 +0000
      Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-18 20:06 +0200
        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-19 20:19 +0000
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 23:22 +0200
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-19 23:56 +0000
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Ted&Alice <sam.m.tedesco@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 00:18 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-20 12:32 +0000
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-21 05:14 +0200
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-21 14:15 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-22 10:13 +1000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-22 04:03 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> - 2016-09-22 11:51 -0500
                Re: Theism is Witchcraft Wisely Non-Theist <aaa@bbb.ccc> - 2016-09-22 11:04 -0600
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-22 14:10 -0400
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft hhyapster@gmail.com - 2016-09-22 17:55 -0700
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Don Martin <drdonmartin@comcast.net> - 2016-09-20 17:58 -0400
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-21 01:03 +0000

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