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Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment?

From Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>
Newsgroups misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android, alt.internet.wireless
Subject Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment?
Date 2016-09-18 06:31 +0000
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On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 00:02:36 +0000 (UTC), Horace Algier wrote:

> Someone in m.p.m.i mentioned they use "Fi" so I looked it up since I live
> in the mountains above Google's Mountainview HQ...
> 
> https://fi.google.com/about/

I just read *all* the articles suggested, so I think I now have a pretty 
good handle on what Google Fi is.

Pretty much, since the MARKETING guys play up *simplicity* as their 
*biggest* benefit, and *cost* as their second-biggest benefit, you can see 
that they play to morons who can't figure out such things on their own.

For example, the *cost* is about the same as my T-Mobile plan currently, 
so, Google Fi is only cost effective for peoople who are too stupid to find 
a good plan on their own. (I admit, carriers make plans complex, and Google 
Fi is simple - but it doesn't cost any less than a good carrier plan for 
the same features, essentially).

As an example of cost, on my tablet, I already have 200MB/month free from 
T-Mobile, but if I wanted 2GB/month, it would only cost $10 from T-Mobile, 
whereas from Google Fi, it's $10/GB (which is twice as expensive). Google 
Fi gives some of that money back though, so I'm not sure yet if Google Fi 
charges that *every* month, or only when you actually use it. 

The *simplicity* isn't really there either, as the Google Voice FAQ shows 
that there is certainly complexity involved. 

Google Voice aside, Google Fi is just as simple as popping a SIM card in 
your phone, which, um, er ... is the *same* simplicity of T-Mobile. They 
also tout the simplicity of WiFi calling - but - again - it's trivial to do 
WiFi calling (it's just a button in the Android settings) so that 
simplicity is only for the morons.

The only place where they can actually tout simplicity is that they 
automatically institute a free VPN whenever connected to a public WiFi 
hotspot. OK. That's nice. For morons. 

Personally, I am *always* on a free VPN no matter *what* I'm doing on the 
net, and that includes whenever I'm at a public WiFi hotspot on either iOS 
or Android. So, there's no value to "me"; but to morons who can't figure 
out how to set up a free public VPN, then it *is* simpler when connected to 
public WiFi hotspots.

As for Google Fi cellular *coverage*, there's really no value there either, 
as far as I can tell. It uses T-Mobile (which I already have) plus Sprint. 
Hmmm.... what's Sprint's coverage? I don't actually know (and don't care 
because T-mobile works for me most places.) All the carriers suck in the 
mountains, so I can't imagine Sprint being any better than T-Mobile is.

It gets a little complex when you try to figure out whether the Google Fi
data plan is worthwhile because with T-Mobile, if you don't use the data,
you lose it - but - the data is *half* as expensive on T-Mobile as it is on
Google Fi.

Here, for the record, is my T-Mobile's current data charges for my plan:
TABLET:
- $0 for 200MB/month 
- $10 for 2GB/month
- $20 for 6GB/month
PHONE:
- $100 for 4 phones unlim talk/text & 2.5GB/month per phone
(They gave me a "special promo" from 9/22 to 2/19 of 4GB/month per phone)
- $15 for 6GB/month
- $30 for 10GB/month
- $45 for unlimited data

Google Fi, on the other hand, charges twice as much for data at $10 for 1GB
per month, but, if you don't use it, it rolls over (although I don't know
how long it rolls over).

Overall Google Fi isn't a horrible deal on price; it's just not a good deal
on anything. It's only a good deal if you already have a bad deal.

However, does anyone know if the Google Fi $10 for 1GB rolls over forever? 
After a few years, you'll have so much data accumulated that I wonder if
you can stop paying the $10/month and just use up all the accrued data?

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What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 00:02 +0000
  Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-17 20:10 -0400
    Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 00:34 +0000
      Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-17 20:37 -0400
        Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 00:56 +0000
    Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2016-09-18 14:10 +0000
      Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-18 10:20 -0400
        Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? ElfinArc6 <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 09:31 -0500
      Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? ElfinArc6 <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 09:22 -0500
  Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 00:31 +0000
    Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-17 20:34 -0400
      Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 00:54 +0000
      Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Elfin <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 20:21 -0500
    Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 00:54 +0000
      Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 01:08 +0000
        Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 01:15 +0000
          Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-17 21:34 -0400
            Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Elfin <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 20:47 -0500
          Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2016-09-18 14:12 +0000
        Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-17 18:27 -0700
          Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 01:48 +0000
            Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-17 21:50 -0400
              Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 02:07 +0000
                Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-17 22:11 -0400
                Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 04:16 +0000
            Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Elfin <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 20:51 -0500
              Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 07:31 +0000
                Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Elfin <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 07:27 -0500
                Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 23:00 +0000
      Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Elfin <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 20:23 -0500
        Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 04:16 +0000
  Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 01:22 +0000
    Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2016-09-26 18:11 -0500
      Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-26 23:39 +0000
        Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2016-09-27 02:16 -0500
          Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-27 07:28 +0000
  Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-09-17 20:00 -0700
    Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 04:00 +0000
    Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 05:09 +0000
      Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-18 06:45 -0400
        Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 23:00 +0000
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            Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-19 16:22 +0000
    Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 05:38 +0000
    Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 05:57 +0000
    Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 05:57 +0000
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    Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 07:11 +0000
      Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-09-18 18:41 +1000
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          Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 23:00 +0000
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            Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Elfin <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 18:51 -0500
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                Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-19 16:25 +0000
                Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-19 04:14 +0000
                Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Elfin <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-09-19 05:31 -0500
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        Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 19:17 -0700
          Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-18 22:27 -0400
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              Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-09-18 21:16 -0700
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                Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-20 18:22 -0400
              Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-19 16:22 +0000
              Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-19 17:52 -0400
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        Re: What is Google Fi and what does it mean for Android & iOS equipment? "Percival P. Cassidy" <Nobody@NotMyISP.net> - 2016-10-12 18:04 -0400
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