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Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi?

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On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 22:55:59 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:

> I think it was $100 when we bought it from Costco.  Every once in a 
> while Ooma sends me an offer for  $20 providing I get a friend to buy a 
> unit at $20 off -- generally $80 or $90.  I post that too, but nobody 
> ever takes me up on it.  They don't even have to say I referred them, 
> but NOOOO!

Yup. Costco ran sales all the time on the Ooma Telo and others. 
Most people seem to be *afraid* of Ooma.

They don't want to take any *risk*.

I, myself, think Ooma must go out of business since they make zero money
off of me other than the International calls at about 2 cents a minute.

But, heck - that is what keeps Skype in business - and - as I said, once
you've had Ooma for a few months, it's free after that in that it has paid
for itself over Vonage. 

> We've had the same phone number since 1959, so we're in LOTS of lists. 
> Recently most of them were for local home remodeling businesses, but now 
> it's just <crickets> all day!

OMG. I was only in high school when you got that phone number!

> We canceled AT&T (~$30 just for LOCAL calls, no LD at all) when we got 
> the Ooma.  GOD I hate AT&T.

Yup. We had the Ooma and the landline for a while - but then we dropped the
landline. I wonder if anyone still has a landline?

> Fear does strange things.
Yup. The people who buy Vonage over Ooma do it on fear and fear alone, it
seems. 

Just like the Apple people - I'll be they're the same.

> We have to haggle with Charter to get their "introductory" rate.  It 
> worked for quite a few years, but the last one the best they could do 
> was $10/month off.  We once DID cancel them for dialup (there's still a 
> good local dialup) so we're on record for not making idle threats.  So 
> for $54/month we get internet and landline.  Grandfathered T-Mobile 
> $10/year plan for cell (no data, of course).  Can't get much cheaper.

If you have a tablet, and if you're in the USA, T-Mobile gives you a free
200MB per month. I have two of those. But you have to have a SIM card in
the tablet.

For Comcast cable, I just recently had a kid call me telling me they raised
her introductory rate from about 45 bucks to about 70 bucks because the 12
month introductory rate expired.

In the past, you'd just call Comcast and say "hey, gimme back my
introductory rate" and they'd do it, but they gave us a hard time.

SO, I looked up a house for sale in Zillow, and I impersonated that house
(which, luckily for me, did not currently have Comcast service) and got a
*great* rate (better than her old rate) as an introductory rate.

When we called back with *that* information, they gave her that
introductory rate. 

But it took 4 separate phone calls:
1. She called and they wouldn't lower the rate
2. I called and they wouldn't lower the rate
3. I called as a zillow house - and they gave me a better rate.
4. She called with that information - and they gave it to her.

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Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-15 17:55 +0000
  Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-15 13:58 -0400
    Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-16 18:11 +0000
      Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-16 14:40 -0400
        Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-16 19:30 +0000
          Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-16 15:42 -0400
          Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-16 19:47 +0000
          Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 13:23 -0700
            Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-17 04:50 +0000
              Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 22:55 -0700
                Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-17 06:32 +0000
                Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 12:09 -0700
                Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-17 17:20 -0400
                Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 01:40 +0000
                Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-17 21:48 -0400
              Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-16 23:23 -0700
              Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-19 18:07 -0400
          Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-17 21:25 +0200
            Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-17 19:59 +0000
          Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2016-09-19 15:16 -0700
      Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-09-17 22:56 +1000
        Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 01:40 +0000
          Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-09-18 16:51 +1000
            Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 07:31 +0000
              Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2016-09-26 10:08 -0500
          Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-19 21:42 +0200
            Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-19 17:52 -0400
              Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-20 08:25 +0200
                Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-20 14:11 +0000
      Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-17 21:21 +0200
        Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 01:40 +0000
  Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-09-15 11:29 -0700
    Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-16 18:19 +0000
      Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2016-09-16 21:18 -0500
  Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-17 21:19 +0200
  Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-19 18:03 -0400

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