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Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi?

From Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android, alt.internet.wireless
Subject Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi?
Date 2016-09-16 19:30 +0000
Organization Aioe.org NNTP Server
Message-ID <nrhh8l$57i$4@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink)
References <nrenaa$1pra$2@gioia.aioe.org> <150920161358211796%nospam@nospam.invalid> <nrhcla$1ta9$3@gioia.aioe.org> <160920161440089520%nospam@nospam.invalid>

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On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:40:08 -0400, nospam wrote:

>> My fault for not being clear that a legitimate phone number was the goal.
> 
> voip provides a legitimate phone number.

Either you don't understand the question, or you are just being cryptic for
no good reason.

I've seen this behavior from you so many times, that I've learned the
following:

5% of the time, you actually know what you're talking about.
5% of the time, you don't actually *understand* the question.
90% of the time you're just being duplicitous (for whatever pleasure it
gives you).

The point is that a real phone number is required for this to work.

I have Ooma and many of my friends and relatives have Vonage, but we're not
talking about physical phones - so - you must understand that physical VOIP
is not the question.

We're talking about using a GSM moboile phone WITHOUT the SIM card yet
still getting, for free, a real phone number that calls other phone numbers
and that receives calls from other phone numbers, for free.

Of course on WiFi, that GSM device (with or without a SIM card) can make
calls *to a computer* and it can receive calls *from a computer* but we
were never talking about *that* type of VOIP.


>> Both sending & receiving POTS calls, for example.
> 
> yep.
> 
>> Can VOIP receive a POTS call?
> 
> seriously?? 
> 
> do you even know what voip *is* ?

I have *plenty* of VOIP device, e.g., I use Ooma all the time and I have
hangouts/gv on my iPads which can send and receive both calls and SMS for
free to and from POTS lines.

But I have a SIM card in *all* my mobile devices.
I'm asking if this can be done *without* a SIM card.
 
>> That is, does VOIP give you a real phone number of the format:
>>  1-800-555-1212
> 
> that number is already taken.

Here's one of the times where you don't even understand the simplest of
questions. If you can't understand a 555-1212 foo-style example, then
you're *never* gonna understand the complexities of this question.

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Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-15 17:55 +0000
  Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-15 13:58 -0400
    Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-16 18:11 +0000
      Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-16 14:40 -0400
        Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-16 19:30 +0000
          Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-16 15:42 -0400
          Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-16 19:47 +0000
          Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 13:23 -0700
            Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-17 04:50 +0000
              Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 22:55 -0700
                Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-17 06:32 +0000
                Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 12:09 -0700
                Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-17 17:20 -0400
                Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 01:40 +0000
                Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-17 21:48 -0400
              Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-16 23:23 -0700
              Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-19 18:07 -0400
          Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-17 21:25 +0200
            Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-17 19:59 +0000
          Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2016-09-19 15:16 -0700
      Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-09-17 22:56 +1000
        Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 01:40 +0000
          Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-09-18 16:51 +1000
            Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 07:31 +0000
              Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2016-09-26 10:08 -0500
          Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-19 21:42 +0200
            Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-19 17:52 -0400
              Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-20 08:25 +0200
                Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-20 14:11 +0000
      Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-17 21:21 +0200
        Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-18 01:40 +0000
  Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-09-15 11:29 -0700
    Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-16 18:19 +0000
      Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2016-09-16 21:18 -0500
  Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-17 21:19 +0200
  Re: Android GSM free telephone WITHOUT SIM card (is it possible on WiFi? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-19 18:03 -0400

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