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On Sat, 27 Aug 2016 09:00:57 +0000, DaveG wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 20:47:11 +0100, mick wrote:
> 
>> On 26/08/2016 12:35:28, DaveG wrote:
>>> On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 02:06:39 +0100, mick wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 26/08/2016 01:51:53, DaveG wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 19:02:49 +0000, mick wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 18:23:36 +0000, DaveG wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 00:38:52 +0000, mick wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Dave, a small problem you may recall from awhile ago that I never
>>>>>>>> resolved was the extra carraige returns in the signature ver
>>>>>>>> 0.139.
>>>>>>>> I am still experiencing it in the updated 0.140.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The bug was reported back in 2008
>>>>>>>> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=554178
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I notice that your signature has always been three lines from any
>>>>>>>> quoted text instead of the five that I suffer from.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In your Pan's posting profile what signature TYPE do you use?
>>>>>>>> I have tried text and text file but they make no difference.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There has been a lot of fixes in the latest release but not the
>>>>>>>> one I wanted and I have not noticed anything else that has
>>>>>>>> changed or made a difference.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Pan 0.140, sig type text file.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> thanks, same here, text file.
>>>>>> must be mint that is causing the problem, was the same in 17.3 KDE,
>>>>>> now using Cinnamon 18.
>>>>> 
>>>>> FWIW your thread starter had 4 blank lines before the sig and this
>>>>> one I'm replying to had only 3
>>>> 
>>>> Ah, that's because the first post was a Text signature and the second
>>>> post was a Text File signature.  I'll stick with the signature done
>>>> in a text file as that does not look so bad. Thanks for the feedback.
>>>
>>> I wonder if the text signature displays an extra blank line because
>>> you put an LF at the end of the text you typed in?
>> 
>> Misunderstood with my first reply at 19.14.
>> No, I am not putting an extra line feed at the end of my typed text.
>> When I open follow up to newsgroup there is a blank line below the
>> other persons quoted text, then a blinking cursor ready for me to start
>> typing my reply on the second line, then three blank lines below the
>> cursor, then the two dashes and then the signature, that's five blank
>> lines between the last line of quoted text and the two dashes.  If I
>> use the 'text' signature instead of the text file signature that
>> produces six blank lines between the other persons quoted text and the
>> two dashes before I ever start typing.
>> Using MesNews this time which looks right.
> 
> 'tis odd and no idea why yours should be different to mine.  Maybe it's
> not Pan but a library dependency?  Have you asked in the Pan mailing
> list?


One reply from the pan mailing list:

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At least in my case, that's because I tend to manually add/delete lines 
as necessary to leave a single blank line above the signature.  (On short 
posts it'll be manual delete as there's too many blank lines, but on 
longer posts I guess I often arrow down instead of hitting enter twice to 
start a new paragraph, so I often end up manually adding lines to keep 
the signature as, effectively, the last paragraph.)

IOW, that's a long term if minor bug that has been there as long as I can 
remember.  In fact, I /think/ I remember the old C-based pan, 0.14.x era 
(upstream 0.14.x), before the C++ rewrite that was introduced with 0.90, 
behaving similarly.  I suppose most long-term users have gotten as used 
to it as I have, and simply add/delete lines manually without hardly 
thinking of it any longer, just as I do.

But if someone wishes to create a patch to fix it, say making it three 
blank lines with the cursor on the second, ready to type in the reply, I 
imagine it'd be taken pretty fast, and I imagine that'd be a reasonably 
easy patch, likely easy enough I could do it myself if it bothered me 
enough, and I don't make any claims at being a coder, certainly not C++, 
tho I did have a pascal course in college, 30-some years ago.  But as I 
said half the time I'd probably end up manually fixing up the sig 
separation anyway, so it's too minor to bother patching, here. 

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman

-------------------------------------------------

To me that kind of sums up Linux, nothing is quite polished off.  Mint is 
striving to be a very good operating system and a real alternative for 
disillusioned windows users but it is being let down by third party 
apathy.

I really want to break away completely from Microsoft and windows only 
software but it is so hard to give up all those nice touches that just 
work, e.g., I use Foxit Reader for reading books and magazines at lot.  
In windows you can set facing pages (to see those two page spreads of 
single photos) and there is a separate cover page view, so every time you 
open a file it remembers and you see the cover then facing pages as you 
would normally read a book/magazine.  That option is not there in the 
Linux version, so you get the cover page and the next page together then 
your facing pages after that are out of sync. There are ways around that 
but it just makes the experience that more frustrating to work with.

Evolution is a good alternative to Outlook but you cannot leave it 
running all day in the background as it just throws wobblies, so you have 
to shut it down and re-opening every so often.

The only program I never have trouble with is Firefox, the add-ons work 
and it syncs perfectly with the windows version.

With all the kerfuffle about windows 10 going on during the past year it 
is a great opportunity for the Linux brigade to show their strengths and 
win over the windows dis-illusionists but I don't see that eagerness to 
impress.


-- 
mick

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