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Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference

From Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference
Date 2016-08-28 11:16 +0200
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Użytkownik "Jonathan Doolin"  napisał w wiadomości grup 
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> |As with any word, one should acknowledge the different definitions, and 
> not
> require others to use the same definition in every context.
>
> A nonsense. How many possible combinations are there?
>

|Well, for an example, here you can see the definition for the word "up"

|https://www.google.com/#q=up+definition
|3 verb definitions, 1 noun definition, 5 adjective definition, 1 
preposition definition, and 8 adverb definitions.

Well, 18.
And what if there were 6 bilions x 18 versions?
Would you still insist to know them all?


|Or I could pretend the words have meaning, and accuse those who don't 
understand me, of stupidity.  It should be absolutely clear though, that if 
I did this second thing, that this is not what someone with a real idea 
would do.

But that's exactly what people with real ideas do, and that's exactly
what they should do. Do you know what happens then? In the ideal case
the idea  with most possibilities wins. In real case - sometimes a Shit
wins because idiots like Jan scream : "I'm a Bach-like GURU!!!!" loudly.
But not often, usually winning ideas have some value.

|One can do the problem one of two ways.  One is to do a path integral of 
the space-time metric in the rest-frame of the stay-at-home twin.  (But it 
would be impossible for the traveling twin to view the events around him 
from this perspective.)
|The other way is to consider it from the changing point-of-view of the 
traveling twin.

What world do you live?
Dp you live in a world  you have to integrate a proper path
of spacetime to know what time it is?
"point of view of travelling twins"? Which one - "these buildings
are moving" or "I'm moving"?



> You can find such things anywhere.  The problem with Great Guru
> is: he tried to revolutionize mechanisms he had no real clue about.
>
> Revolution was trendy that time.
>

|Are you talking about Jesus or Einstein?

Einstein.


> |(1) Endorsers of well-defined models, who have a different hypothesis 
> than
> mine.
> |(2) Cynics, who do not have their own hypothesis, but are happy to mock
> everyone who does.
> |(3) People who are so used to arguing, they don't even recognize when 
> they
> agree.
>
> And?
>

|And, they may all have something of value to say?

Seeking a random text with a hope "maybe something
of value" is suicidal. You'll end brainwashed by some
shit - unless you have more luck than wit.

> saved him a great deal of time, because labeling me thusly means he no
> longer has to listen to anything I am saying!
>
> Not quite. You wrote
> "Took me several readings to realize you are trolling yourself."
> And you still do some listening.
>

|It's very different to say "troll" and "liar".  A troll is one who 
criticizes everything.  A troll could say "you're fat" to a fat person. 
Or "you're an idiot" to a person who has made a mistake.
|Maciej Wazniak said, having no argument, I used "ad personam" rhetoric.  (I 
thought at that time you and mlwo were both the same person...  I'm still 
not sure.)

Of course we are. Do you want a proof you're lying?
And do I look like a prosecutor to you?
I see you're lying, so I say "you're lying". Of course, my
ideas are influenting what I see - I can be wrong, but
I don't think so.
You saw I'm a troll, so you said.

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Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-16 06:01 -0700
  Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-16 06:06 -0700
    Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 02:13 -0700
      Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-18 03:16 -0700
        Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 03:46 -0700
          Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-18 04:01 -0700
            Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 04:46 -0700
              Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-18 05:10 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 07:13 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-18 20:40 +0200
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 05:54 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-19 06:22 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 06:43 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-21 12:00 +0200
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 08:10 -0700
              Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 15:22 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-18 23:41 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 06:05 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-19 06:40 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 06:57 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 10:26 -0500
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-21 12:07 +0200
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-08-21 07:20 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-21 18:41 +0200
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 08:26 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-21 12:13 +0200
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-08-22 01:52 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-22 02:17 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-08-22 06:32 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-22 23:09 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 05:29 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-25 06:26 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 06:46 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 09:02 -0500
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-25 23:35 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-25 23:38 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-29 19:36 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-25 23:33 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 07:14 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-26 07:42 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-26 23:32 +0200
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-27 17:59 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-28 23:20 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 16:03 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-29 22:58 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-30 11:55 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-30 23:12 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 03:40 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-26 05:19 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-08-27 07:06 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-27 18:14 +0200
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-08-27 12:02 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-28 11:16 +0200
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 04:27 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-29 06:58 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-08-31 02:27 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-31 03:22 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-09-02 05:38 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-09-02 16:33 +0200
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-09-03 02:57 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-05 00:31 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 18:35 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-05 22:51 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 07:19 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-09-06 20:29 +0200
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 05:31 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-07 23:08 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 06:22 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-09-08 23:25 +0200
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 05:51 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 09:32 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-09-10 08:53 +0200
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 07:34 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-09-11 10:38 +0200
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 10:10 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-11 23:32 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 03:50 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-12 05:02 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 10:20 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-09-12 21:11 +0200
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 02:59 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-14 05:55 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 06:38 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-15 23:03 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-15 23:31 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 10:29 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-09-16 21:39 +0200
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference Jonathan Doolin <good4usoul@gmail.com> - 2016-09-20 07:24 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-09-20 23:08 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 15:55 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-29 22:46 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-30 11:43 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-30 23:03 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-22 14:37 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-22 23:12 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-23 18:06 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-23 23:21 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-23 01:11 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-08-23 04:30 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-23 05:33 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-08-23 06:19 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-23 06:34 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-08-23 11:32 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-23 23:09 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 06:32 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-24 23:33 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 03:52 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-25 04:14 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 04:21 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-25 05:20 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-23 18:13 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-23 18:19 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-23 23:27 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-23 23:49 -0700
                Re: SR on accelerating frame of reference JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-08-23 18:17 -0700

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