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Re: Another day

From GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Another day
Followup-To comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date 2016-08-27 18:24 -0600
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Marek Novotny wrote:

> On 2016-08-27, GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>> Marek Novotny wrote:
>>
>>> On 2016-08-26, GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> // snip
>>> 
>>>> The point is that chrisv doesn't use linux at all to post here.
>>>> So, in your view, what does that make him?
>>>> I've yet to see him/her advocate linux at all.
>>> 
>>> Me personally, I don't care at all. And I'll back that up a little with
>>> something you can look into for yourself. One of the smartest guys I
>>> know in the Ubuntu group is Jonathan, and he has never posted from Linux
>>> that I can see. Yet he has posted very helpful, and detailed posts on
>>> all manner of Linux issues including a fair amount a very good shell
>>> script.
>>
>> That is helpful advocacy in this case.  And people appreciate the help.
>> It's a positive experience.
>>
>>> 
>>> If you read him even for a little while, it will be clear to you he's a
>>> Linux user. I think he volunteers for for a library where he manages a
>>> bunch of a Linux boxes. Anyway, the point is, his contributions are all
>>> great. I'd say he's in the top 2 or 3 of people I have grown to respect
>>> over the last three years. And every post has been from NT thunderbird.
>>> 
>>> So, do I really care what you used to post? No. Not at all. I care more
>>> about the content.
>>
>> So do I, and when you get him/her mad and starts calling people foul
>> names, it ruins any credibility of advocacy.
>> I've yet to see him/her help anybody with a linux problem in all the
>> years I've been here.
>>
>>> 
>>> Now, that's not to say that if I see someone trolling that I don't look
>>> at the headers. That would be a lie. I do look. Because I am painting a
>>> picture of the person. If they go on and on about how awesome Windows is
>>> and the post from Windows, that matches up. If they go on and on about
>>> how Linux sucks, yet post from Linux, that's weird. Why use it if you
>>> hate it... So on that count alone I agree it is odd. But do I discredit
>>> someone entirely based on what the post from? No. It's merely one of the
>>> data points I would use to try an paint of a picture of the person.
>>> 
>>> The bottom line is that the content is king. And if you think I'm lying
>>> you're welcome read though all my posts on the Ubuntu group where I have
>>> already chimed in on this same issue at least a few times over the years
>>> and I have said the same thing I am saying now. And Chrisv didn't have a
>>> damn thing to do with those posts. They were about other people
>>> entirely. In each case I have mentioned Jonathan. He's simply a very
>>> good example of why you can't judge a poster by the header of the post.
>>> His content speaks volumes. I don't care what he posts with. Not even a
>>> little.
>>> 
>>
>> I take your word that you aren't lying.
>> It is the hypocrite chrisv that is the liar.
> 
> In all fairness to you and chrisv there is history here that plays into
> these views. And I'm not part of that history. So my views will never be
> able to fully dovetail with the views here.
> 
> In my main group I am a Red Hat fan boy. Almost everyone hates their
> guts and I'm the guy saying how awesome they are. There is bad blood
> from the old days which I simply wasn't around for. So I don't have that
> disdain to muddy up my views. Same goes for Canonical. Some people
> really hate Shuttleworth. I have no problem with him at all. I've been
> in Linux for 3 years. August is my yearly mark.
> 
> I'm not, nor will I ever be the most popular view on Linux or the
> people here. I'm simply too new and don't have the baggage many of you
> have. Just keep that in mind. You'll have to cut me a little a slack as
> I need to see things with my own eyes and experience them for myself. I
> don't just take other people's word for things. That's going to piss off
> people and I'm sorry that can't be helped. I'm not going to read every
> post that has ever posted to form an opinion of the past.
> 
> So I'm going to give you a fair shot and I hope you give me a fair shot
> and we'll see where that takes us. If our views are not compatible
> that's not a problem either. If you think I'm being an asshole, I'm sure
> you'll let me know. If I think it is justified I am sure I'll let you
> know.
> 
> Some people I tried to give the benefit of the doubt to immediately
> started to say broad things like all Linux users are asshole liars and
> such. Blanket statements like that I will take as if they are said
> directly to me personally. I might say something like there are koolaid
> drinkers, but I don't believe I say all Mac users are koolaid drinkers.
> If I do I apologies. Not all are. Some of us are forced to use the shit
> platform. I am a Mac user, and don't wish to be.
> 
> Anyway, this is getting weird. You get the idea. Hope we're cool. We
> don't need more enemies. We have plenty of those already.
> 

He/she was friendly for a few years, till I dropped out of here to do 
caregiving for my sister and Mother.  No time.  So about 5 years ago or so, 
I purchased a new HP.  Of course it had win7 on it at the time, but also, I 
didn't follow any of the anti-trust stuff over MS.  So when I did come back 
in, I asked what ever happened to this anti-trust stuff against MS.  To make 
a long story short, he/she got pissed because I didn't say any bad words 
about MS in all of this, plus I purchased at a discount straight from MS 
VS2010 Pro.  They knew me from a long time ago when I helped out getting 
their early 90s version of Fortran features that were needed.  Hence the 
stiff discount.  But that further enraged he/she so I was then called a POS.

-- 
My problem is that I don't have enough middle fingers.

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                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 21:20 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 21:27 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 14:04 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 13:07 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 18:00 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 18:18 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 23:40 -0600
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 08:26 -0400
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 08:37 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 11:42 -0600
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 11:49 -0600
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-24 14:08 -0400
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 21:18 -0600
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 09:47 -0400
        Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 12:00 -0600
          Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 11:13 -0700
            Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 15:57 -0600
              Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 15:16 -0700
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-23 22:31 +0000
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 15:44 -0700
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-23 23:00 +0000
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 16:07 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 22:25 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 21:40 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 22:22 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 21:39 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 11:59 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 11:41 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 21:14 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 20:50 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 12:39 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 12:07 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 17:44 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 18:17 -0700
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-23 20:07 -0400
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 01:02 +0000
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-24 09:59 -0400
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 14:25 +0000
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-24 10:58 -0400
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 15:16 +0000
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 22:16 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 21:34 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:09 -0600
              Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-23 20:08 -0400
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 01:10 +0000
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 22:28 -0600
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-24 10:12 -0400
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 09:03 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:20 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 11:41 -0700
                Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 12:29 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 13:55 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 13:11 -0700
                Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 13:20 -0700
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 20:33 +0000
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 13:45 -0700
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 20:50 +0000
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 14:02 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 13:54 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 13:10 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:19 -0600
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 09:32 -0400
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-25 10:54 -0400
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 11:08 -0400
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-25 12:03 -0400
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 12:47 -0400
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 12:19 -0600
    Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 11:59 -0600
      Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 11:16 -0700
        Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 15:59 -0600
          Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-23 22:13 +0000
            Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 15:18 -0700
            Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 22:29 -0600
          Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 15:14 -0700
            Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 22:33 -0600
              Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 07:56 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:23 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 11:43 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 13:53 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 13:10 -0700
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 20:22 +0000
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 13:26 -0700
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 20:36 +0000
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 13:46 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 20:58 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 20:14 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 12:18 -0600
          Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-23 20:47 -0400
            Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 01:24 +0000
              Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 22:48 -0600
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 05:06 +0000
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:27 -0600
              Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-24 10:24 -0400
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 14:34 +0000
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-24 10:58 -0400
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 15:14 +0000
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:30 -0600
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 10:00 -0400
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 08:58 -0700
                Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 09:24 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:31 -0600
                Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 12:16 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 13:51 -0600
                Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 13:17 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 20:56 -0600
                Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 20:33 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 12:16 -0600
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:30 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 11:49 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 13:48 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 13:09 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 20:55 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 20:13 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 12:15 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 11:44 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 17:22 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 17:48 -0700
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 07:57 -0400
                Re: Another day -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-26 06:41 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 11:35 -0600
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 13:51 -0600
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 16:17 -0600
                Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 13:03 -0700
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 08:36 -0700
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 16:09 +0000
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 09:27 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 11:33 -0600
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 13:44 -0400
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 13:44 -0600
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 17:14 -0400
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 16:10 -0600
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 13:48 -0600
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 16:16 -0600
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-27 12:24 -0600
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:28 -0600
                Re: Another day Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-08-25 07:10 -0400
            Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 22:46 -0600
              Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-24 09:58 -0400
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 14:28 +0000
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 08:54 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 13:47 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 13:08 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 20:45 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 20:03 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 12:00 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 11:12 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 17:09 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 17:37 -0700
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 14:50 -0400
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 17:07 -0600
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 19:23 -0400
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 18:25 -0700
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 10:44 -0400
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 09:47 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 11:58 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 11:04 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 17:05 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 17:37 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 23:38 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 08:39 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 11:26 -0600
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 13:42 -0600
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 14:47 -0400
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 11:53 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 17:04 -0600
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 19:20 -0400
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 18:24 -0700
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 17:36 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 23:37 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 07:53 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 11:56 -0600
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-25 11:04 -0400
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 11:53 -0600
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-25 19:16 -0400
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-25 23:22 +0000
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-25 19:24 -0400
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-25 23:37 +0000
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 18:26 -0700
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 02:51 +0000
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-25 22:54 -0400
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 19:59 -0700
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 03:01 +0000
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 21:19 -0700
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 19:56 -0700
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 03:00 +0000
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 20:31 -0700
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-25 22:29 -0400
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 02:50 +0000
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 19:57 -0700
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 03:04 +0000
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 20:31 -0700
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 08:22 -0400
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 07:58 -0400
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 18:26 -0700
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:44 -0600
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:43 -0600
                Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 19:15 +0000
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 10:19 -0400
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 11:51 -0600
                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 14:42 -0400
  Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 08:38 -0400

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