Re: The New Gravity Theory

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: The New Gravity Theory
Date	2016-08-12 07:27 -0500
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On 8/11/2016 9:30 PM, benj wrote:
> On 8/11/2016 6:35 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 8/11/2016 5:20 PM, benj wrote:
>>>>
>>> Oddly Odd believes that government lies no more than other groups of
>>> humans. Wonder where he got that idea? Probably spending too much time
>>> making wooden toys to notice that government is made up mostly of
>>> politicians.
>>
>> First of all, I would contest that the government is made up mostly of
>> politicians. If you had said Congress, yes. But the government includes
>> caseworkers for Medicare, military soldiers, schoolteachers, VA hospital
>> doctors, police officers, IRS auditors, Smithsonian Museum curators,
>> highway project engineers, national park rangers and many many many more
>> people than ever set foot in the Capitol. The number of POLITICIANS in
>> government is a minority, one that gets a lot of press.
>
> So you "win" the debate again, right counselor? You always twist every
> situation around until you can make yourself the "winner" but you are
> really a loser because you are so busy twisting that you can't even
> think.  The NUMBERS of workers as a whole exceeds the number of
> politicians. But are they HONEST?

I have no reason to believe they are not.

> Admit it. Policy is set by
> politicians. Workers follow and support that policy (if they want to
> keep their jobs) So now lets ask is it a VALID scientific measure of
> honesty to count heads when the politicians are setting the stories and
> making everyone support the lies?

So let's see if I understand your argument. You are saying that the few 
who are at the top of the power chain are corrupt. And that, because 
they are liars, then everyone in the same far-reaching organization and 
in the employ of the "government" are therefore complicit and guilty of 
the same lie. So that when a Senator lies, so then does the policeman. 
When a general lies, so then does the schoolteacher.

> Indeed when workers falsely support
> policies and stories they KNOW to be false is that dishonesty or just
> "doing your job". Clearly when we say government LIES we mean that
> government stories and polities and justifications are all lies.
> And those are all set by...wait for it... politicians.

And so the only way someone can remain pure and untainted by all this 
lying is to be not part of any organization of humans, because in every 
organization of humans, there is someone in power who is therefore 
corrupt, and then by association everyone else in the organization is 
also corrupt. Hence, better to be standing alone, employed by no one. 
Have I got that right?

>
>> So yes, I think the government AS A WHOLE lies no more than any other
>> group of humans. And if you want to demonize certain professions and say
>> that most people in those professions do more than their share of lying,
>> then that's on you, bub.
>
> Ah so in general used car salesmen are to be trusted because they are as
> honest as I am, right? No wait, as Honest as YOU are! Got it.

Within the last 48 hours, Ben, you told me you lied, and it wasn't the 
first time. So yes, in general, used car sales salesmen are as honest as 
you are. Better get used to that idea.

>
>>> His believe might be proved true IF and ONLY IF the "other
>>> group" of humans is used car salesmen or journalists.
>
>
>
>

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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The New Gravity Theory Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2016-08-10 22:14 -0400
  Re: The New Gravity Theory benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-10 22:36 -0400
    Re: Re: The New Gravity Theory Michael J. Strickland <michael06582@comcast.net> - 2016-08-11 05:34 -0400
  Re: The New Gravity Theory Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2016-08-10 20:30 -0700
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      Re: The New Gravity Theory bartekltg <bartekltg@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 16:29 +0200
      Re: The New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 09:35 -0500
        Re: The New Gravity Theory john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 08:11 -0700
          Re: The New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 10:49 -0500
            Re: The New Gravity Theory john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 09:14 -0700
              Re: The New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 11:28 -0500
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                Re: The New Gravity Theory benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-11 18:20 -0400
                Re: The New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 17:35 -0500
                Re: The New Gravity Theory benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-11 22:30 -0400
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                Re: The New Gravity Theory john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 11:24 -0700
                Re: The New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-12 15:36 +0000
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      Re: The New Gravity Theory john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 16:18 -0700
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    Re: The New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 12:38 -0500
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        Re: The New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 13:30 -0500
          Re: The New Gravity Theory john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 11:47 -0700
            Re: The New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 14:19 -0500
              Re: The New Gravity Theory john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 13:21 -0700
                Re: The New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 15:47 -0500
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                Re: The New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 16:32 -0500
                Re: The New Gravity Theory moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-08-12 15:50 +0000
                Re: The New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 10:59 -0500
              Re: The New Gravity Theory benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-11 18:31 -0400
                Re: The New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 17:39 -0500
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                Re: The New Gravity Theory noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 14:54 -0700
                Re: The New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 13:52 -0500
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        Re: The New Gravity Theory Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 10:38 -0500
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