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Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone?

From	Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com>
Newsgroups	comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone, sci.electronics.repair
Subject	Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone?
Date	2016-08-03 03:18 +0000
Organization	Aioe.org NNTP Server
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On Tue, 2 Aug 2016 22:28:23 -0400, tlvp wrote:

> You tell me. You seem to be the one that's beefing

I did provide all the facts I knew.
You provided absolutely nothing of any value (so why do you bother?).

1. I don't log into Google apps: http://i.cubeupload.com/oexktG.gif
2. I turn off location services: http://i.cubeupload.com/ugZ1fc.gif
3. I turn off all Android location access:
- Android Settings: http://i.cubeupload.com/mYSCjc.gif
- Network Location: http://i.cubeupload.com/rfmqc7.gif
- Android IP Service: http://i.cubeupload.com/ZCV3yC.gif
- Google Play Services: http://i.cubeupload.com/KbMWVM.gif
- Google Search: http://i.cubeupload.com/ZUiP01.gif
- ES File Explorer: http://i.cubeupload.com/mX8GaS.gif
etc.
4. Without a Google Account, it may very well be that the 
Advertising ID no longer exists; but, just in case, I tap on
Google Settings to change it. http://i.cubeupload.com/SVpOs2.gif

You clearly know even less than I do.
So you'll *never* be able to answer the simple question.

You live off of fear inculcated in you by Apple Marketing.
Me?
I just want the facts.

So I ask the factual question, which, can be summarized as:
a. Does not having a Google Play account eliminate the Advertising ID?
(Deleting the Google Play account "appears" to remove all vestiges of the
Advertising ID from the Android settings - so that "might" be the case that
there is no longer an Advertising ID - but that remains to be proven.)

b. Ignoring cross-platform apps such as Google Maps and Google Mail (which
exist on iOS also), what Android-specific privacy things can Google
possibly latch off of to spy on us while we're using our Android devices
that Apple doesn't also do on iOS?

So far, nobody knows of anything.

The Apple Apologists (predictably) bring up nothing whatsoever of factual
value (as if they all work for Apple Marketing because they live and
breathe fear in everything they do).

Facts don't scare me like they scare them.
I'm hoping the Android aficionados will know the facts.

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Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-02 19:37 +0000
Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-02 15:43 -0400
Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-02 19:54 +0000
Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-08-02 22:28 -0400
Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 03:18 +0000
Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 03:43 +0000
Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-02 23:51 -0400
Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 04:21 +0000
Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 06:34 +0000
Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-08-02 23:43 -0700
Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 07:06 +0000
Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 06:47 +0000
Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-03 11:04 +0200
Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 19:13 +0000
Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 15:19 -0400
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Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-04 13:05 +0200
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Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 10:54 +0000
Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-04 13:06 +0200
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Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 06:38 -0400
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Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 19:03 +0000
Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 15:19 -0400
Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 10:56 +0000
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