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| From | Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android |
| Subject | Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? |
| Date | 2016-07-19 02:39 +0000 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <nmk3sa$1p5d$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink) |
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 21:21:16 -0400, nospam wrote: > other than the things *you* said iphones can do that android can't, > such as locking screen orientation, control over permissions, full > encryption, privacy benefits and ease of updating firmware? You bring up good points, and since I'm never afraid of the truth, and since I'm extremely well balanced, I'm actually glad to see if there is anything that can be done on iOS that can't already be done on Android. I never said there are aren't things that the iPhone can do that Android can't do, simply because I haven't tried everything yet. With respect to the items you kindly brought up: - Locking the screen (true) - Control over permissions (false) - Full encryption (depends on what you mean) - Privacy benefits (true) - Ease of updating firmware (true, but false for apps, but it depends) ----------------------- More Detail ----------------------- - Locking the screen on the iPad is a hardware button (and I love that feature). I have it with VLC in software on Android - but not in hardware. I don't have it with the Youtube app on Android - and I miss it. - Control over permissions I have control over permissions after the fact on Android. Here, for example, are my S-Voice permissions: http://i.cubeupload.com/1mkCkS.gif Plus I get a list of all apps that ask for permissions. And when they last asked for them. So, I feel the Android after-the-fact control is *better* than the iOS before-the-fact control, but, feature for feature, both my Android device and my iPad can control the permissions, so it's a wash to me. - Full encryption I'm not so sure that Android doesn't have full encryption. Personally, I haven't tried it out so I'm not sure. But there certainly are settings in "my" Android version (4.3). For example, see this screenshot of my Settings: http://i.cubeupload.com/IarfTA.gif It came from Android 4.3 -> Settings > More > Security > a. Encrypt Device b. Encrypt External SD Card c. Set up SIM card lock PS: I bluetoothed that file (tap-tap-done). :) - Privacy benefits I think this is a biggie for most people which is why those who don't want to think all that much about privacy tend toward iOS over Android (and that's a good thing for them). Me? I turned off everything possible in Android to protect privacy, but I'm sure there's more to do (for both iOS and Android). But, out of the box, in factory condition, certainly I'd agree that the iOS devices are "more private" than the Android devices. - Ease of updating firmware This is a *very* complex bullet item. On the one hand, iOS updates more devices for a longer period than any one Android version. However, on Android, it's trival to backport the old version if you have a problem, whereas on iOS it's basically impossible. That's bad. Also, on Android, you don't see them say they don't support things outside of teh walled garden, so the *risk* of updating on iOS is far greater for those outside the walled garden (trust me - I've been burned with iOS moves as trivial as from 7.0.0 to 7.0.1). Even more importantly, on Android, it's trivial to re-install old apps whereas on iOS, it's much hard to offline archive and reinstall old apps. Here is a screenshot of my automatic archival program for example: http://i.cubeupload.com/NxixAc.gif SUMMARY: - Locking the screen (iOS is better than the Android devices) - Control over permissions (this is essentially a wash between the two) - Full encryption (I think "my" phone has full encryption) - Privacy benefits (iOS is better than Android - but you can make Android private at far greater effort) - Ease of updating firmware (given the complexities, this is a wash) But I do thank you for bringing up these issues, as it would be nice to have a list of a dozen or two dozen things that can be done with iOS that can't be done with Android.
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Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-14 23:21 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-15 05:19 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 01:35 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:57 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? ElfinArc6 <eflinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 14:18 -0500
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:58 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:57 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? ElfinArc6 <eflinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 15:01 -0500
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-16 03:46 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-16 04:28 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-16 05:11 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2016-07-16 15:31 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 00:17 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-18 21:21 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 02:39 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-18 22:49 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 02:18 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-18 22:30 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 04:42 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-19 00:45 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 05:07 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-19 01:39 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 18:34 +0200
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-19 13:10 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 19:26 +0200
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-19 13:34 -0400
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-19 19:32 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 23:00 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-07-20 09:30 +0200
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-20 17:01 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 18:33 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-07-21 11:12 +0200
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-07-21 11:12 +0200
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-21 18:27 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-21 18:41 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-21 21:43 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-23 01:44 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? crankypuss <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-07-16 12:17 -0600
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-17 21:18 +0000
Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-25 06:49 +0000
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