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Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities?

From	Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com>
Newsgroups	misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android
Subject	Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities?
Date	2016-07-15 19:12 +0000
Organization	Aioe.org NNTP Server
Message-ID	<nmbcj1$547$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink)
References	(2 earlier) <nm9sb4$r7m$1@dont-email.me> <nmaqg6$qqf$2@dont-email.me> <150720161038013213%nospam@nospam.invalid> <nmaur2$bf0$2@dont-email.me> <150720161241096487%nospam@nospam.invalid>

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On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 12:41:09 -0400, nospam wrote:

> that's what the dock is for, along with the first homescreen, as well
> as spotlight search.

IMHO, you should never have to "search" for your apps.
However, I do agree with nospam that the DOCK is where you stick app icons 
(and folders of app icons if you prefer) for the stuff that you want to 
stay on all the desktops.

Of course, in Android, you can just put an "App Drawer" icon on *each* 
desktop, so, the point is that you have the freedom to do whatever you 
want.

On iOS, you're far more restricted as to what Apple allows you to do to 
organize your desktop the way *YOU* want it organized.

> sure. just put that folder in the dock, or use spotlight to search for
> the app. it's not a big deal.

Yup. It's a crime if you have to resort to searching to find your app, but 
he's right. You just stick the folder or app in a dock on iOS. 

In Android, you have far more choice as to how you do it.

> if the apps aren't often used then they don't really need to be
> accessible from any homescreen anyway.

This is true.

> then put them on the 2nd to last homescreen, perhaps in a folder.

I only have one desktop screen, by design, but if you have plenty of 
desktop screens, that idea should work for you.

> android *needs* it because apps aren't necessarily on a homescreen
> which makes deleting them more involved.

This is where I don't get the Apple Apologists' psychology.

Notice that statement that Android "needs" the App Drawer is made in the 
same breath that nospam suggests the user *create* an App Drawer.

Yet he feels the need to deprecate the Android setup which has *everything* 
that the iOS setup has, and tons (and tons more).
- On Android, you can delete the App Drawer icon if you want
- On Android, you can delete *any* app icon (every one) if you want
- On Android, you can hide or show *any* app icon if you want
- On Android, you can have the app icon in *multiple* places if you want
- On Android, you can have any launcher you want
- On Android, in any launcher, you can have any App Drawer app you want
- On Android, you can organize your apps any way you want 
Note: I will agree that "my" Nova App Drawer doesn't allow any order I 
want, but I'd wager that if I wanted that feature, one of the many App 
Drawer apps that are available on Android probably allows any organization.

What I don't understand is the psychology of the Apple Apologists, like 
nospam, who not only defend the extremely primitive Apple lack of an App 
Drawer, but they deprecate what is essentially far more powerful and far 
more useful than the primitive Apple offering.

In addition, they lie, by saying Android "needs" the App Drawer, when with 
the App Drawer, you can easily replicate exactly what's on iOS while you 
can do so much more (that's why I used the words "fully functional").

So it's the PSYCHOLOGY of the Apple Apologist that I'm trying to 
understand.

The Apple Apologists make no sense.

What is it about their PSYCHOLOGY that makes them deprecate an offering in 
Android that is clearly equal to and far better than the equivalent 
offering in iOS?

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Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-14 23:20 +0000
  Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-14 19:22 -0400
    Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 01:50 +0000
      Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-14 21:51 -0400
        Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 02:00 +0000
          Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-14 22:09 -0400
      Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 01:55 +0000
  Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-14 23:23 +0000
    Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2016-07-14 18:59 -0500
      Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 01:51 +0000
        Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2016-07-14 21:20 -0500
      Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-07-15 14:19 +1200
        Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2016-07-14 21:31 -0500
          Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 01:29 -0400
            Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 18:43 +0000
          Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-15 16:36 +0000
            Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 18:43 +0000
              Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-07-18 14:33 +0200
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-18 18:20 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-18 18:21 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-18 20:37 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-18 22:57 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-18 23:06 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 00:08 +0000
      Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 01:29 -0400
        Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-15 10:03 -0400
          Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-15 10:38 -0400
            Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-15 11:17 -0400
              Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-15 12:41 -0400
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-15 17:07 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:32 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:12 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-15 15:16 -0400
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:36 +0000
              Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 18:58 +0000
            Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 18:52 +0000
          Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-07-15 11:26 -0400
            Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:31 +0000
          Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 18:43 +0000
            Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-15 15:16 -0400
              Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:37 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? ElfinArc6 <eflinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 14:40 -0500
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 20:04 +0000
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                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-16 03:47 +0000
            Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-07-18 14:45 +0200
              Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-18 18:19 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-18 18:57 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-18 22:33 +0000
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                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-19 07:37 +0000
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                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-19 19:29 -0400
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 00:17 +0000
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                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-21 19:19 +0000
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                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? crankpuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 06:22 -0600
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                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-22 11:35 -0400
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-22 16:04 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 13:23 -0600
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 03:41 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 23:00 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-19 06:18 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 03:41 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-20 05:17 +0000
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  Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 01:55 +0000
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        Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-14 22:09 -0400
  Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-07-15 01:32 -0400
    Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:32 +0000
      Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-15 15:37 -0400
      Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-07-15 13:17 -0700
        Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-16 03:58 +0000
  Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-07-15 10:42 +0200
    Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:34 +0000
    Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-07-16 01:08 -0400
      Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-17 03:12 +0000
  SOLVED: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? (was: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities?) Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 20:07 +0000
    Re: SOLVED: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-16 04:29 +0000
    Re: SOLVED: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-16 02:42 -0400
      Re: SOLVED: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-16 20:31 +0000

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