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Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities?

From Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com>
Newsgroups misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities?
Date 2016-07-15 18:43 +0000
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On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 10:03:50 -0400, PAS wrote:

> I've barely touched an iPhone.  AFAIK, there is no app drawer on an 
> iPhone.  Is that correct?  

There is the *need* for an app drawer on any mobile device.

From a psychology standpoint, what people like Jolly Roger do is
*deprecate* the fully functional App Drawer that is on Android - and - at
the very same time - they espouse the use model of creating a folder to put
all unused apps on in iOS.

What I don't understand is the PSYCHOLOGY of such idiots.

How can they deprecate the App Drawer in one breath, and in the next breath
they suggest as an organizational solution that people like crankypuss
essentially create a non-functional App Drawer folder on iOS?

I'm not arguing the technical merits here - because they're quite clear.

What I don't understand is the mixed-up PSYCHOLOGY of the Apple Apologists
here.

> Do you have to jailbreak an iPhone in order 
> to get an app drawer app installed?  

To my knowledge, there is no such beast in iOS.
Everyone acknowledges the need.
So what they all do is create a folder and stick unused icons in that
folder.

That's the technical part - which is fine.
What I don't understand is that they deprecate the Android App Drawer - yet
- they build their own App Drawer from scratch.

That's what I don't get.
They don't think right.
Why?

> On my current Android phone, the 
> manufacturer did away with the app drawer and that is not a good thing.  

Are you sure?
On my S3 with the Nova launcher, the App Drawer "icon" is merely an icon.
So I can delete it from the desktop, and then it "appears" that I can't get
to the app drawer.

But it's still there.

> For every app, there's an icon on the screen.  I don't want an icon for 
> every app on the screen, I want them only in the app drawer.  I find the 
> app drawer a great feature of Android.

That's stupid to have an icon for every app on the screen.
You should have TOTAL CONTROL of what app icons show up on the screen.

If you're on Android, you need a *different* launcher.
Check out "Nova free" which is extremely functional.
You can also try "Google Now" although I don't use that one so you'll have
to ask others for how to work it.

The beauty of Android is that you can choose your launcher at will.
The launcher changes (almost) *everything* about the look and feel.

For example, Samsung put in "TouchWiz" as the launcher.
It sucks - compared to Nova free.

On iOS, Apple chooses the launcher.
On Android, YOU choose the launcher.

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Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-14 23:20 +0000
  Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-14 19:22 -0400
    Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 01:50 +0000
      Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-14 21:51 -0400
        Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 02:00 +0000
          Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-14 22:09 -0400
      Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 01:55 +0000
  Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-14 23:23 +0000
    Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2016-07-14 18:59 -0500
      Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 01:51 +0000
        Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2016-07-14 21:20 -0500
      Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-07-15 14:19 +1200
        Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2016-07-14 21:31 -0500
          Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 01:29 -0400
            Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 18:43 +0000
          Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-15 16:36 +0000
            Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 18:43 +0000
              Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-07-18 14:33 +0200
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-18 18:20 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-18 18:21 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-18 20:37 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-18 22:57 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-18 23:06 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 00:08 +0000
      Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 01:29 -0400
        Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-15 10:03 -0400
          Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-15 10:38 -0400
            Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-15 11:17 -0400
              Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-15 12:41 -0400
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-15 17:07 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:32 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:12 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-15 15:16 -0400
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:36 +0000
              Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 18:58 +0000
            Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 18:52 +0000
          Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-07-15 11:26 -0400
            Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:31 +0000
          Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 18:43 +0000
            Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-15 15:16 -0400
              Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:37 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? ElfinArc6 <eflinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 14:40 -0500
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 20:04 +0000
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                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-16 03:47 +0000
            Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-07-18 14:45 +0200
              Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-18 18:19 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-18 18:57 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-18 22:33 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-18 22:53 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-07-19 09:06 +0200
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-19 07:37 +0000
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                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 00:17 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-20 01:25 +0000
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                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 23:00 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-19 06:18 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-20 03:41 +0000
                Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-07-20 05:17 +0000
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  Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 01:55 +0000
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        Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-14 22:09 -0400
  Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-07-15 01:32 -0400
    Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:32 +0000
      Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-15 15:37 -0400
      Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-07-15 13:17 -0700
        Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-16 03:58 +0000
  Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-07-15 10:42 +0200
    Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 19:34 +0000
    Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-07-16 01:08 -0400
      Re: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-17 03:12 +0000
  SOLVED: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? (was: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities?) Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-15 20:07 +0000
    Re: SOLVED: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-16 04:29 +0000
    Re: SOLVED: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-16 02:42 -0400
      Re: SOLVED: Why do Apple Apologists lie so much about iOS capabilities? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-16 20:31 +0000

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