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Re: Juno probe already in trouble, with 13July correction of orbit; spinning out of control??

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Juno probe already in trouble, with 13July correction of orbit; spinning out of control??
Date 2016-07-12 14:16 +0000
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john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>If gravity is LeSagian,
>the profile in close will be different.
>It will be like driving a car
>and suddenly being on ice- any
>corrections will have to be
>modified accordingly. Otherwise,
>you get a feedback that amplifies
>each swerve rather than muting it.

Yes, and you said that close up gravity would be so different that
Juno wouldn't even be able to orbit Jupiter.  How did that work
out for you?

>And with a 50 minute delay?? Oh-oh!!

Yes, so that means NASA couldn't detect something wrong and
compensate for it. All the programming for dealing with the
gravity and getting into orbit had to be preprogrammed long
in advance.  Kind of like a self-driving car preprogrammed
50 minutes in advance to take a curve at 40 mph due to road
friction and curvature but when the car gets there it's all
iced up and the car tries to take the curve at 40 mph anyway.
As it turned out, you were wrong, no ice, and Juno did fine.

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