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Re: Juno probe already in trouble, with 13July correction of orbit; spinning out of control??

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On 7/13/2016 2:08 PM, john wrote:
> MM
> You would rather believe in
> invisible "different-than-matter" matter
> than "spinny stuff"?
> Earth spins. Sun spins. Galaxy spins.
> Atoms don't spin?
>

I'm greatly amused by your constant yammering about CHOOSING what you 
want to believe in. This includes grasping at justifications for your 
CHOICE in what you want to believe.

In science, you never CHOOSE what you believe. What to believe is FORCED 
on you by data. If you had hopes that something was true and firmly 
believed it, but data proves you wrong, then you are properly FORCED to 
no longer believe it's true. If there is something you don't want to be 
true and don't believe it, but data confirms that it is true, then in 
science you are FORCED to accept it as true.

Now, John, this stripping you of the FREE CHOICE to believe what you 
want may be the thing that you hate most about science. And of course, 
you can abandon science and stick to believing what you want to believe, 
because you want to fight for that right. But then, why would you hang 
around a newsgroup about science?

-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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