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Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping

From Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP>
Newsgroups comp.os.vms
Subject Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping
Date 2016-06-25 14:59 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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On 2016-06-23, Bob Koehler <koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org> wrote:
>
>    I've asked for this before, and I'll say it again.  VMS needs to have
>    keyboard layouts for EDT and DEBUG that are PC friendly.  TPU's
>    predefined keyboards should also have that variation.
>

I have not used a DEC keyboard for development for over a decade.

I do however use the EDT keypad layout on a full PC keyboard on a
daily basis and it works fine. The only real difference is that there's
no delete word key (which I don't miss) and the 3x2 keypad between the
main keyboard and the keypad is used based on PC key labeling and not
the LK keypad assigned position.

This means that Page up is the top right key, Page down is the bottom
right key, Insert is the top left key and Delete is the bottom left key.

After a decade that feels natural to me and I can still use a EDT keypad
based editor (either emacs on Linux or TPU on VMS) just fine.

Simon.

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Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP
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PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "Paul Richards" <paulrichards@iinet.net.au> - 2016-06-22 04:08 -0500
  Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-22 11:15 +0200
    Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Jim <mckinneyj@saic.com> - 2016-06-22 06:34 -0700
  Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-22 10:12 -0400
    Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-22 21:05 +0200
    Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "Paul Richards" <paulrichards@iinet.net.au> - 2016-06-22 22:06 -0500
  Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-22 16:42 -0400
    Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-23 01:24 +0200
      Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-22 20:08 -0400
        Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-23 08:48 -0400
          Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-23 09:11 -0400
            Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-24 03:10 -0700
              Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-24 17:12 -0700
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping hb <end.of@inter.net> - 2016-06-25 13:05 +0200
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-25 06:22 -0700
              Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-24 21:26 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-25 08:20 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-25 15:06 +0200
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-25 10:14 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-25 12:59 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-25 21:36 +0200
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-26 02:09 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-26 10:42 +0200
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-27 09:28 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-27 10:19 -0400
              Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-25 12:51 +0200
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-25 11:48 +0000
              Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping helbig@asclothestro.multivax.de (Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)) - 2016-06-25 12:08 +0000
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-25 15:07 +0000
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-27 09:25 -0400
            Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-25 14:59 +0000
              Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-25 21:41 +0200
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-25 13:02 -0700
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping hb <end.of@inter.net> - 2016-06-26 17:00 +0200
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-26 08:39 -0700
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-26 12:20 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-26 10:20 -0700
                math.h (Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping) "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@nospam.mac.com> - 2016-06-26 14:44 -0500
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-26 16:04 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net_work> - 2016-06-26 15:31 -0500
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-26 16:50 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-26 19:09 -0700
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-26 18:21 -0700
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-27 10:07 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-27 12:33 -0700
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-27 16:06 -0400
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-28 05:29 -0700
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net_work> - 2016-06-26 11:21 -0500
                Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-26 10:09 -0700
                Emacs 21.2, was Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping hb <end.of@inter.net> - 2016-06-28 23:13 +0200
                Re: Emacs 21.2, was Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-29 10:04 -0700
                Re: Emacs 21.2, was Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping helbig@asclothestro.multivax.de (Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)) - 2016-06-29 19:01 +0000
      Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "Robert A. Brooks" <FIRST.LAST@vmssoftware.com> - 2016-06-22 23:09 -0400
        Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-23 09:06 +0200
          Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-23 12:48 -0400
        Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-23 08:57 -0400
          Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "Kerry Main" <kemain.nospam@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 09:55 -0400
            Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-23 10:39 -0400
              Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "Kerry Main" <kemain.nospam@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 12:49 -0400
            Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-24 08:44 -0400
            Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-24 03:11 -0700
  Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-22 20:59 -0700
    Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "Paul Richards" <paulrichards@iinet.net.au> - 2016-06-23 00:30 -0500
    Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "Paul Richards" <paulrichards@iinet.net.au> - 2016-06-23 00:33 -0500
    Re: PC/VT Keyboarrd Mapping "Paul Richards" <paulrichards@iinet.net.au> - 2016-06-23 00:36 -0500

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