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Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole
Date 2016-06-15 00:39 +0000
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john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> writes:

>Michael
>"The Laws of Physics" have been
>changing as our knowledge grows.

Yes, and anything that goes counter to existing laws has to have a really
really good reason why those laws are no longer valid.

>You think that there is a "smallest"?

One single letter says "yes!": "h".

>You go against the "laws of logic".

The "laws of logic" state the earth is flat and the sun goes around it
once per day, and the stars are embedded in a crystal spherical shell,
and an iron cannonball falls faster than a bag of feathers because it is
heavier.

See how far "laws of logic" gets you?

>BHs RELEASE huge amounts of
>energy. That is observed.

In the process of consuming matter.  They are messy eaters.  As I stated,
our galaxy's black hole, with nothing to eat, is quite quiet.

> Continue
>to fudge and say "it must be bouncing
>off the accretion disc",

No, as I said, produced by the accretion disk.  It's a complex process.

> which you notice
>ALSO has not been irretrievably 
>EATEN- which is ALREADY a fudge to
>"black holes eat everything".

Anything that goes past the event horizon is GONE - but the stuff outside
the horizon, such as the accretion disk, is not necessarily gone.  Some of
the matter falling in actually doesn't, it reappears as the jets.

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NOTHING stays in a Black Hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 09:09 -0700
  NOTHING stays in a Black Hole HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 09:34 -0700
  Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-13 16:38 +0000
    Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 09:58 -0700
      Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 10:35 -0700
        Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 11:08 -0700
          Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-13 20:02 +0000
            Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 14:17 -0700
              Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-14 02:58 +0000
                Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 02:22 -0700
                Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-14 12:26 +0000
                Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 06:32 -0700
                Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-14 16:48 +0000
                Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 10:46 -0700
                Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 12:56 -0700
                Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-15 00:39 +0000
                Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-15 00:23 -0700
                Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-15 14:39 +0000
                Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-15 11:52 -0700
                Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-15 20:29 +0000
                Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-15 16:38 -0700
                Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-15 17:17 -0700
                Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-16 01:54 +0000
                Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-15 19:24 -0700
                Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-16 12:59 +0000
                Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-06-16 06:06 -0700
                Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-16 01:40 +0000
      Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-13 19:50 +0000
        Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 14:42 -0700
  Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 14:45 -0700
  Re: NOTHING stays in a Black Hole "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-06-15 14:08 -0700

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