Re: Where to locate software

From	Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP>
Newsgroups	comp.os.vms
Subject	Re: Where to locate software
Date	2016-06-10 18:03 +0000
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On 2016-06-10, David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
> Stephen Hoffman wrote:
>
>>   If you're 
>> doing fifty or five hundred servers or if you need rapid updates due to 
>> security vulnerabilities or other serious issues, you're in deep 
>> sneakers.   And most everything here is only going to need to happen 
>> faster.
>> 
>> *This* is app stacking and containers and sandboxes.
>> 
>
> This is not the world I live in, and so I must admit that any views I have just 
> aren't applicable.

Actually David, while I do think you do need to expose yourself more
to new ideas and see if they can bring benefits to you, I also think
your views _are_ applicable.

Stephen likes to talk about the large internet focused companies with
a requirement for massive amounts of automation and web based stuff
and that is certainly a valid requirement. However, by number, those
companies are not the majority of the companies in existence and all
the different types of companies have different requirements.

What you bring to the table is detailed real-world knowledge of actual
computing business requirements in a different type of company.

Simon.

-- 
Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP
Microsoft: Bringing you 1980s technology to a 21st century world

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Where to locate software "Paul Richards" <paulrichards@iinet.net.au> - 2016-06-08 18:18 -0500
  Re: Where to locate software David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-08 19:39 -0400
    Re: Where to locate software "Paul Richards" <paulrichards@iinet.net.au> - 2016-06-08 20:28 -0500
  Re: Where to locate software "Bill Pedersen" <pedersen@ccsscorp.com> - 2016-06-08 19:40 -0400
    Re: Where to locate software "Paul Richards" <paulrichards@iinet.net.au> - 2016-06-08 20:30 -0500
      Re: Where to locate software "Bill Pedersen" <pedersen@ccsscorp.com> - 2016-06-08 22:24 -0400
        Re: Where to locate software "Paul Richards" <paulrichards@iinet.net.au> - 2016-06-08 22:57 -0500
  Re: Where to locate software Steven Schweda <sms.antinode@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 17:02 -0700
    Re: Where to locate software "Paul Richards" <paulrichards@iinet.net.au> - 2016-06-08 20:31 -0500
    Re: Where to locate software lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-08 21:53 -0700
      Re: Where to locate software Steven Schweda <sms.antinode@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 22:19 -0700
      Re: Where to locate software Richard Levitte <richard@levitte.org> - 2016-06-09 02:47 -0700
        Re: Where to locate software lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-09 13:39 -0700
  Re: Where to locate software Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-09 08:42 -0400
    Re: Where to locate software Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-09 14:58 +0200
      Re: Where to locate software Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-09 10:27 -0400
        Re: Where to locate software David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-09 11:33 -0400
          Re: Where to locate software David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-09 11:43 -0400
            Re: Where to locate software johnwallace4@yahoo.co.uk - 2016-06-09 09:19 -0700
              Re: Where to locate software Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-09 13:13 -0400
                Re: Where to locate software Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-09 18:58 +0000
                Re: Where to locate software Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-09 18:59 +0000
              Re: Where to locate software David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-09 22:01 -0400
                Re: VMS FAQ (was Re: Where to locate software) Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-10 10:58 -0400
                Re: VMS FAQ (was Re: Where to locate software) Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> - 2016-06-10 16:50 +0000
          Re: Where to locate software koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-09 13:28 -0400
            Re: Where to locate software David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-09 22:06 -0400
    Re: Where to locate software   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-09 13:58 +0000
      Re: Where to locate software Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-09 11:16 -0400
    Re: Where to locate software Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> - 2016-06-09 14:46 +0000
      Re: Where to locate software Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-09 12:43 -0400
        Re: Where to locate software lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-09 13:50 -0700
        Re: Where to locate software David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-09 22:20 -0400
          Re: Where to locate software Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-10 11:11 -0400
            Re: Where to locate software David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-10 11:56 -0400
              Re: Where to locate software johnwallace4@yahoo.co.uk - 2016-06-10 10:19 -0700
              Re: Where to locate software Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-10 18:03 +0000
                Re: Where to locate software Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-10 15:59 -0400
                Re: Where to locate software koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-13 09:02 -0400
                Re: Where to locate software Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-13 16:34 +0200
                Re: Where to locate software David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-10 16:53 -0400
                Re: Where to locate software Hans Vlems <hvlems@freenet.de> - 2016-06-11 00:27 -0700
                Re: Where to locate software johnwallace4@yahoo.co.uk - 2016-06-11 01:37 -0700
                Re: Where to locate software Hans Vlems <hvlems@freenet.de> - 2016-06-11 03:21 -0700
                Re: Where to locate software David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-11 22:02 -0400
                Re: Where to locate software David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-11 22:27 -0400
                Re: Where to locate software koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-13 09:05 -0400
            Re: Where to locate software Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> - 2016-06-10 16:13 +0000
              Re: Where to locate software Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-10 15:50 -0400
                Re: Where to locate software Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> - 2016-06-10 20:54 +0000
                Re: Where to locate software Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-10 17:47 -0400
                Re: Where to locate software Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> - 2016-06-11 01:59 +0000
                Re: Where to locate software lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-10 19:13 -0700
                Re: Where to locate software Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> - 2016-06-11 03:01 +0000
                Re: Where to locate software lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-10 22:47 -0700
                Re: Where to locate software Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> - 2016-06-11 12:45 +0000
                Re: Where to locate software Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-11 15:02 -0400
                Re: Where to locate software Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> - 2016-06-12 02:07 +0000
                Re: Where to locate software David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-11 22:05 -0400
                Re: Where to locate software Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> - 2016-06-12 04:17 +0000
                Re: Where to locate software Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> - 2016-06-11 03:09 +0000
                Re: Where to locate software David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-10 23:39 -0400
                Re: Where to locate software lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-10 22:44 -0700
                Re: Where to locate software johnwallace4@yahoo.co.uk - 2016-06-11 01:42 -0700
                Re: Where to locate software lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-11 18:25 -0700
                Re: Where to locate software Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-11 11:15 +0200
                Re: Where to locate software Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-11 13:44 -0400
                Re: Where to locate software johnwallace4@yahoo.co.uk - 2016-06-11 11:54 -0700
                Re: Where to locate software Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-11 15:23 -0400
                Re: Where to locate software lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-11 18:28 -0700
                Re: Where to locate software David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-11 22:38 -0400
                Re: Where to locate software lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-12 00:59 -0700
                Re: Where to locate software Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> - 2016-06-12 14:09 +0000
                devops / source control - (Was: Where to locate software) "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net_work> - 2016-06-12 10:43 -0500
                Re: devops / source control - (Was: Where to locate software) "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net_work> - 2016-06-12 11:08 -0500
                Re: Where to locate software Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-12 12:53 -0400
                Re: Where to locate software Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> - 2016-06-12 17:31 +0000
                Re: Where to locate software Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-12 15:23 -0400
                Re: Where to locate software Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> - 2016-06-12 20:28 +0000
                Re: Where to locate software lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-12 17:49 -0700
                Re: Where to locate software Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> - 2016-06-13 13:02 +0000
                Re: Where to locate software Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-13 09:40 -0400
                Re: Where to locate software Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> - 2016-06-13 14:33 +0000
                Re: Where to locate software Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-13 16:20 +0200
                Re: Where to locate software Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> - 2016-06-13 15:12 +0000
                Re: Where to locate software RobertsonEricW <robertsonericw@netzero.net> - 2016-06-13 08:55 -0700
                Re: Where to locate software John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 09:07 -0700
                Re: Where to locate software "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net_work> - 2016-06-16 15:16 -0500
                Re: Where to locate software lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-16 20:25 -0700
                Re: Where to locate software Richard Levitte <richard@levitte.org> - 2016-06-16 23:24 -0700
                Re: Where to locate software Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-19 06:21 +0200
                Re: Where to locate software Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-19 06:08 +0200
                Re: Where to locate software lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-18 21:52 -0700
                Re: Where to locate software "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net_work> - 2016-06-19 19:17 -0500
                Re: Where to locate software lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-13 15:03 -0700
                Re: Where to locate software koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-13 09:08 -0400
                Re: Where to locate software "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@nospam.mac.com> - 2016-06-13 21:05 -0500
                Re: Where to locate software Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> - 2016-06-14 03:49 +0000
                Re: Where to locate software lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-13 21:28 -0700
                Re: Where to locate software koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-14 09:52 -0400
                Re: Where to locate software David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-14 12:11 -0400
                Re: Where to locate software Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-14 14:27 -0400
                Re: Where to locate software Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> - 2016-06-14 20:14 +0000
                Re: Where to locate software Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-19 12:20 +0200
                Re: Where to locate software koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-21 09:30 -0400
                Re: Where to locate software Richard Levitte <richard@levitte.org> - 2016-06-21 09:34 -0700
                Re: Where to locate software Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-07-02 08:23 +0200
                Re: Where to locate software lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-14 16:22 -0700
                Re: Where to locate software lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-14 16:20 -0700
                Re: Where to locate software koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-21 09:28 -0400
                Re: Where to locate software "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@nospam.mac.com> - 2016-06-14 18:55 -0500
                Re: Where to locate software Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-15 11:18 +0200
                Re: Where to locate software Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> - 2016-06-15 12:17 +0000
                Re: Where to locate software Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-15 14:30 +0200
                Re: Where to locate software "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@nospam.mac.com> - 2016-06-15 07:39 -0500
                Re: Where to locate software Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-15 15:23 +0200
                Re: Where to locate software "Craig A. Berry" <craig.a.berry@gmail.com> - 2016-06-15 08:03 -0700
                Re: Where to locate software Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-15 19:41 +0200
                Re: Where to locate software "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@nospam.mac.com> - 2016-06-15 19:10 -0500
                Re: Where to locate software Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-16 11:24 +0200
                Re: Where to locate software "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@nospam.mac.com> - 2016-06-16 08:33 -0500
                Re: Where to locate software Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-16 17:09 +0200
                Re: Where to locate software "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@nospam.mac.com> - 2016-06-16 11:12 -0500
                Re: Where to locate software Richard Levitte <richard@levitte.org> - 2016-06-16 12:32 -0700
                Re: Where to locate software "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@nospam.mac.com> - 2016-06-16 17:48 -0500
                Re: Where to locate software lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-16 20:29 -0700
                Re: Where to locate software Richard Levitte <richard@levitte.org> - 2016-06-16 23:21 -0700
                Re: Where to locate software Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-19 05:56 +0200
                Re: Where to locate software David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-13 13:21 -0400
                Re: Where to locate software John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-12 14:46 -0700
                Re: Where to locate software lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-12 17:53 -0700
                Re: Where to locate software Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-12 12:57 -0400
                Re: Where to locate software Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> - 2016-06-12 18:03 +0000
                Re: Where to locate software Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-12 12:46 -0400
                Re: Where to locate software David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-11 22:37 -0400
            Re: Where to locate software Chris Scheers <chris@applied-synergy.com> - 2016-06-10 13:28 -0500
    Re: Where to locate software David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-09 11:30 -0400
      Re: Where to locate software Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-09 12:48 -0400
    Re: Where to locate software Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-09 18:55 +0000
      Re: Where to locate software Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-09 16:00 -0400
        Re: Where to locate software johnwallace4@yahoo.co.uk - 2016-06-09 14:18 -0700
          Microsoft "innovation", was: Re: Where to locate software Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-10 17:47 +0000
      Re: Where to locate software David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-09 22:26 -0400
  Re: Where to locate software Dale Dellutri <daQQQle@panQQQix.com> - 2016-06-09 15:17 +0000
    Re: Where to locate software "Paul Richards" <paulrichards@iinet.net.au> - 2016-06-09 19:29 -0500
      Re: Where to locate software Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-10 06:23 +0200
        Re: Where to locate software "Paul Richards" <paulrichards@iinet.net.au> - 2016-06-09 23:45 -0500
        Re: Where to locate software Steven Schweda <sms.antinode@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 21:51 -0700
          Re: Where to locate software Hans Vlems <hvlems@freenet.de> - 2016-06-10 00:15 -0700
            Re: Where to locate software "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net_work> - 2016-06-10 08:26 -0500

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