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Re: Linux Technology

From GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Linux Technology
Date 2016-04-30 17:23 -0600
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <ng3ekf$5p0$2@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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On 04/29/16 20:00, Snit wrote:
> On 4/29/16, 6:34 PM, in article
> u9SdnXXdyuoWlrnKnZ2dnUU7-c3NnZ2d@giganews.com, "Marek Novotny"
> <marek.novotny@marspolar.com>  wrote:
>
>> On 2016-04-29, GreyCloud<mist@cumulus.com>  wrote:
>>
>> // snip
>>
>>> Actually, he is right on this one.  Wifes new iMac has a 5400 rpm HD in
>>> it.  On startup it is very slow for whatever reasons.  Starting up Xcode
>>> on it ... may as well go get a cup of coffee and then come back.
>>> The mac also slows down really bad over a week... then you have to go to
>>> the culprit->  email app.  Seems that it is always busy zipping logs to
>>> the user account deep down into the Logs directory.  After removing them
>>> the system comes back to its original sluggishness.  I really don't know
>>> what they did to El Capitan, but Snow leopard was a whole lot better on
>>> just a dual intel cpu.
>>
>> You're not the only one who feels this way. It's a dick move on Apple's
>> part to get you to bump yourself up to a Fusion drive. Anything to save
>> a buck and keep that 40% gross margin. Here we have a company with $230
>> bn offset by $70 bn of debt which doesn't mind absolutely stupid stock
>> buybacks rather than investing it in something revenue generating. They
>> could give customers a better value, but no.
>
> They give excellent value. In comparison after comparison their machines
> cost about the same as *comparable* PCs. If there was a cheaper machine that
> served me as well as my Mac I would love to move to it.
>
> But I invest money into tools I know I will use well and which will serve me
> better than lower end ones. I have a high quality food processor and blender
> because I know I will get good use out of them and I enjoy cooking. I have a
> fairly low end car because I do not drive much and do not care much about
> that.
>
>> Dell likes to have a shit 5400 RPM drive be default as well, but to
>> upgrade out of it is typically very low cost and typically you have a
>> lot of choices as to how and what you upgrade. With Apple the upgrades
>> they provide are expensive. And good luck getting that drive out. You'll
>> have to pull the display apart from the shell to get to the drive. So
>> much for great design. It's a BIC lighter.
>
> I agree the drive speed is just absurd to have be 5400. They should have
> moved past that long ago.
>
>
Problem is with El capitan is that it still has some bugs that are quite 
noticeable... especially their email app.
My old dual core Snow Leopard iMac was a lot faster than this new one 
for my wife.
I thought about just giving it to my grandson, but then I don't want to 
make him mad.

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