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Re: Linux Technology

From	GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: Linux Technology
Date	2016-04-29 17:06 -0600
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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On 04/29/16 03:24, Desk Rabbit wrote:
> On 29/04/2016 08:30, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>> The lying imbecile Snit Michael Glasser snotted:
>>
>>> On 4/28/16, 2:16 PM, in article nftudr$jh4$1@dont-email.me, "Peter
>>> Köhlmann" <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Are you really certain that you want to claim that?
>>>>>> OSX is by far the slowest OS of the 3 linux, windows and OSX.
>>>>>> Especially with its prehistoric filesystem HFS, which is as slow as a
>>>>>> snail on tranquilizers
>>>>>> Windows is not that much faster, though.
>>>>>> And both windows and OSX get trounced by linux file access times
>>>>>
>>>>> That old chestnut again? Seriously, I doubt in a blind test in
>>>>> accessing
>>>>> the same file from any of those filesystems you'd be able to tell the
>>>>> difference. So long as your pictures of lederhosen are delivered, a
>>>>> difference of a few milliseconds is going to be completely unnoticed.
>>>>
>>>> Those "few miliseconds" tend to add up quite fast.
>>>> There is a reason OSX is so incredibly slow, and it is not the
>>>> hardware.
>>>> The OS is crap, and its filesystem belongs in the garbage bin, not on
>>>> computers.
>>>
>>> There may be some truth to that (though you will never support it) but I
>>> think the bigger issue is Apple ships their iMacs and minis with 5400
>>> RPM
>>> drives! That is insane!
>>
>>
>> Idiot. I have a SSD in my Mac. Does it help? Certainly. Is it faster than
>> with a HD? Naturally.
>>
>> Is it anywhere the same speed as a linux box with a HD? Not nearly so.
>> The
>> linux box with a HD is *faster* on file access than the Mac with a SSD.
>> Granted, this is a fast HD, not a crappy one like apple plugs into
>> their box
>>
>> And I run a linux box with the same model SSD, similar processor
>> speed. The
>> Mac gets *trounced* in file access times. The linux box is doing the
>> compile
>> of a *very* large project (more than 200.000 lines of source code) *3
>> times*
>> as fast as the comparable Mac. The same is true when I boot linux on
>> the Mac
>> (I have it dualbooting). Linux runs circles around that shitty OSX
>>
>>
>
> So no verifiable evidence, just your own claim again. Will you *ever*
> manage to back up one of your claims?

Actually, he is right on this one.  Wifes new iMac has a 5400 rpm HD in 
it.  On startup it is very slow for whatever reasons.  Starting up Xcode 
on it ... may as well go get a cup of coffee and then come back.
The mac also slows down really bad over a week... then you have to go to 
the culprit-> email app.  Seems that it is always busy zipping logs to 
the user account deep down into the Logs directory.  After removing them 
the system comes back to its original sluggishness.  I really don't know 
what they did to El Capitan, but Snow leopard was a whole lot better on 
just a dual intel cpu.

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Linux Technology vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-28 02:35 +0000
  Re: Linux Technology Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-27 19:47 -0700
    Re: Linux Technology Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-28 04:56 +0200
      Re: Linux Technology Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-27 20:04 -0700
        Re: Linux Technology Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-28 05:12 +0200
          Re: Linux Technology Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-27 20:43 -0700
            Re: Linux Technology Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-28 09:59 +0000
      Re: Linux Technology Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-28 09:33 +0000
        Re: Linux Technology Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 04:15 -0700
          Re: Linux Technology Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-28 13:50 +0200
            Re: Linux Technology Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 16:20 +0100
              Shut up rodent, Tricks are for Kids, NOT rabbits John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 12:31 -0700
              Re: Linux Technology Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-28 23:16 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 15:58 -0700
                Re: Linux Technology Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-29 09:30 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-29 10:24 +0100
                Re: Linux Technology Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-29 13:25 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-04-29 17:06 -0600
                Re: Linux Technology Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-30 02:14 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-30 02:28 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-30 02:58 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-30 03:15 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-30 03:37 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-30 04:00 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-30 04:39 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-30 13:29 +0000
                Re: Linux Technology Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-30 15:51 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-30 14:10 +0000
                Re: Linux Technology Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-30 09:47 -0700
                Re: Linux Technology Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-29 18:34 -0700
                Re: Linux Technology GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-04-30 17:21 -0600
                Re: Linux Technology GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-04-30 17:23 -0600
                Re: Linux Technology Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-30 19:33 -0700
                Re: Linux Technology DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-29 09:20 -0400
                Re: Linux Technology Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-29 15:44 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-29 08:32 -0700
                Re: Linux Technology DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-29 12:07 -0400
                Re: Linux Technology Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 09:13 -0700
                Re: Linux Technology Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-29 18:50 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-29 13:41 -0400
                Re: Linux Technology Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-29 18:24 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-29 22:09 +0000
                Re: Linux Technology DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-29 18:58 -0400
                Re: Linux Technology Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-29 23:26 +0000
                Re: Linux Technology Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-29 10:40 -0700
                Re: Linux Technology Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-29 22:51 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-01 16:11 -0400
                Re: Linux Technology Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-02 00:07 +0200
            Re: Linux Technology DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-18 17:01 -0400
              Re: Linux Technology Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-18 23:30 +0200
                Re: Linux Technology DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-28 10:10 -0400
                Re: Linux Technology JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-06-01 22:00 -0500
                Re: Linux Technology DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-06-02 00:02 -0400
                Re: Linux Technology Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-06-01 21:28 -0700
                Re: Linux Technology Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-06-03 10:29 -0700
  Re: Linux Technology Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-28 05:07 +0200
    Re: Linux Technology vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-28 03:33 +0000
  Re: Linux Technology vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-28 03:13 +0000
    Re: Linux Technology Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-27 20:42 -0700
  Re: Linux Technology John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 02:42 -0700
  Re: Linux Technology John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 02:43 -0700

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