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Re: Mercury's Precession Again

From HGW <HGW@....>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Mercury's Precession Again
Date 2016-05-01 03:35 +1000
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On 30/04/16 22:49, Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog wrote:
> On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 7:20:48 PM UTC-5, HGW wrote:
>>
>> Precession is caused by the solar wind and radiation pressure. It is not
>> balanced because the orbit is elliptical and the perihelion is shifted
>> before the opposite process occurs on the 'inward' side.
>
> Nope. The numbers don't work out.
>
> Let's do an order-of-magnitude calculation, using extra significant figures in
> the intermediate results but discarding them at the end to acknowledge the
> various simplifying assumptions that I make, using numbers from Wikipedia's
> article on solar sails and elsewhere.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_sail

It uses Einstein's equation....   :)

> The force on a solar sail is dominated by radiation pressure. The pressure due
> to the solar wind is about three orders of magnitude less.
>
> Mercury is neither perfectly black nor perfectly reflective, so figure the
> force per square meter at 1 AU ~= 7x10^-6 N/m^2
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Radius of Mercury is 2.439x10^6 m, and its distance from the Sun averages about
> 0.38 AU, so figure the total force due to radiation pressure averages 10^9 N
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

... Maybe plus a lot more due to Mercury's magnetic field.

> Compare that figure with the average force exerted on Mercury by Venus.
>
> The mass of Mercury is 3.30x10^23 kg, and the mass of Venus is 4.87^24 kg
>
> The distance between Mercury and Venus ranges from 37-178x10^9 m, so figure
> an average of about 107x10^9 m.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Plug these numbers into Newton's equation, and we figure that the average force
> exerted on Mercury due to Venus is about 10^16 N
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> The force exerted on Mercury by radiation pressure is dwarfed by the forces
> exerted on Mercury by the other planets of the Solar System.

Idiot! Different problem. It is the sun/Venus barycentre that you should 
be worrying about. Venus causes the sun to wobble significantly relative 
to Mercury. Therefore its overall effect on Mercury over time is is very 
complicated.

Your comments only reinforce my correct claim that the precession of 
Mercury is chaotic and can never be calculated.

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Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-28 02:22 +1000
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Cully When <cullywhen@invalid.net> - 2016-04-27 16:46 +0000
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-27 17:15 +0000
    Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 10:34 -0700
      Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 12:43 -0500
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 12:17 -0500
    Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-04-28 07:56 +1000
      Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 20:26 -0700
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-28 19:39 +1000
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 04:55 -0700
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 23:55 -0700
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 17:05 -0700
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 22:34 -0700
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 23:45 -0700
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 07:01 -0700
      Re: Mercury's Precession Again "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-04-28 14:03 +0200
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-28 10:20 -0700
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-04-28 15:40 -0500
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-28 14:39 -0700
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 00:06 -0700
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-29 11:56 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-29 20:37 +0000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-30 10:20 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-30 05:28 +0000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-04-30 08:59 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-01 02:46 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-30 10:53 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-05-01 07:51 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 05:49 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-01 03:35 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 14:17 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-05-01 07:58 +1000
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                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-02 03:45 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-01 12:19 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-01 16:12 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <xxx@....> - 2016-05-03 09:54 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-02 19:23 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-04 03:11 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-03 03:47 +0000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 17:32 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 22:41 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-05-01 08:00 +1000
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                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-15 11:36 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-15 13:17 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-15 16:16 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-15 17:32 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-16 04:39 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-16 10:55 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-16 21:10 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-17 10:34 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 03:45 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-18 14:31 +0000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-18 10:48 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 04:33 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-19 11:11 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 12:54 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-19 14:44 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 15:20 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-19 16:58 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 18:05 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-19 18:28 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 20:57 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-20 11:32 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 14:48 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-14 23:29 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-15 10:35 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-15 11:29 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-15 23:25 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-16 00:15 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-16 00:59 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-14 05:34 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-13 15:59 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again tomyee3@gmail.com - 2016-06-13 21:53 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-11 09:57 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-11 15:03 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-12 10:06 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-06-10 20:37 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 11:25 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-08 20:39 +0200
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 13:19 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-08 22:25 +0200
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 16:25 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 20:23 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 23:38 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-09 17:47 +0000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-10 18:40 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-02 10:24 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-06-01 06:38 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-31 21:35 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-01 00:57 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-17 08:46 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-17 17:48 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-29 17:52 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-05-01 08:14 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-30 16:00 -0700
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 11:27 -0700
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-28 12:19 -0700
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 14:44 -0700
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-29 09:11 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 12:11 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-29 17:14 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 03:55 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-03 13:35 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 15:43 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-05 17:38 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-05-06 04:06 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 10:16 -0700
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-04-28 16:06 -0500
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 00:14 -0700
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 10:19 -0700
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-02 10:28 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-02 09:36 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 14:20 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-05 13:27 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-05-05 16:45 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-05 17:50 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-05 22:05 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-07 09:31 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-08 06:41 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-07 14:03 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-05-09 03:42 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-08 12:17 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 12:23 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-05-09 19:44 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-09 05:21 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-09 08:00 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-07 15:42 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 08:05 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-09 15:02 +0000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 11:23 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-09 09:45 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-05-10 09:10 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-10 09:20 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-05-11 07:00 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-05-10 15:16 -0700
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 17:25 -0700
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 22:56 -0700
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-01 16:19 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-01 14:51 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 15:47 -0700
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-29 06:14 +1000
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-04-28 16:15 -0500
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-29 20:01 +1000
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 02:14 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-04 02:50 +1000
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 17:13 -0500
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-29 19:48 +1000
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 06:53 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-30 10:11 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 06:41 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-01 02:16 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 15:43 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-01 21:52 +0000
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-04-30 21:12 +0200
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-05-01 08:11 +1000
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-05-01 09:54 +0200
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-02 02:57 +1000
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 05:33 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-02 02:39 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-01 16:49 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-01 14:56 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <xxx@....> - 2016-05-03 10:02 +1000
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 00:01 -0700
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 17:03 -0700
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 22:46 -0700
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 23:58 -0700
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-05-17 02:47 -0700
    Re: Mercury's Precession Again Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-01 17:35 +0200
      Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-02 02:59 +1000
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 09:56 -0500
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <xxx@....> - 2016-05-03 10:08 +1000
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 07:19 -0500
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 07:26 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-04 03:20 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 13:09 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-03 21:33 +0200
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 14:56 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-03 22:55 +0200
      Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 09:54 -0500
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-03 19:17 +0200
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 13:08 -0500
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-03 21:21 +0200
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 19:28 -0700
    Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-28 19:51 +1000
      Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 05:04 -0700
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-29 06:20 +1000
    Re: Mercury's Precession Again Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-04-28 17:30 -0400
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 14:44 -0700
    Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-03 07:05 +1000
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-04 18:26 -0700
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 18:43 -0700
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 20:17 -0700
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-12 16:46 -0700
    Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-13 07:38 -0700
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-16 11:38 -0700
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-16 12:40 -0700
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-18 11:01 -0700

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