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Re: Mercury's Precession Again

From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Mercury's Precession Again
Followup-To sci.physics
Date 2016-05-03 21:21 +0200
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Odd Bodkin wrote:

> On 5/3/2016 12:17 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>> On 5/1/2016 10:35 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>> Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>> Likewise, if the half-life of a radioactive substance is 22,000 years,
>>>>> you will know that the likelihood of one of the atoms decaying after
>>>>> 22,000 years is 50%, […]
>>>> Wrong.
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-life#Probabilistic_nature_of_half-life
>>
>> This resource does not substantiate your claim.  Granted, natural
>> language is imprecise; but it is possible with natural language to define
>> “half-life” in a way that is not wrong.  The referred article proves that
>> when it says “In other words, the probability of a radioactive atom
>> decaying within its half-life is 50%.” – the key words there being “a”
>> and “within”.
> 
> Here's a shovel. Dig a little deeper.

I do not understand this idiom, but it is probably not that important.

IOW, why don’t you take that shovel and shove it? ;-)

> Perhaps you can elaborate in a little more detail some ways where
> "Likewise, if the half-life of a radioactive substance is 22,000 years,
> you will know that the likelihood of one of the atoms decaying after
> 22,000 years is 50%" and "In other words, the probability of a
> radioactive atom decaying within its half-life is 50%" mean two
> distinctly different things.

Certainly.  Even assuming synonymy of “likelihood” and “probability”, saying 
that “half-life” means that “the likelihood of one of the atoms decaying 
after [that time] is 50 %” is *wrong*; instead, it means that the 
probability for *every* *arbitrarily chosen* atom (actually, only its 
nucleus) *having decayed* *within* that time is 50 %.

This follows from the definition of “half-life”: it is the time within which 
50 % (one half), or after which more than 50 %, of the original radioactive 
nuclei of a specimen had (with certainty, i.e. a probability of 100 %) been 
subject to radioactive decay, and that, although the radioactive decay of 
individual nuclei cannot be predicted as it is a probabilistic process, 
*overall* decay can be estimated based on this fact.

One can then determine the age of a (partially) radioactive specimen by 
knowing the half-life of the original radioactive isotope of an element, and 
comparing the percentage of original atoms found in the specimen against the 
percentage of the decay products and non-radioactive isotopes of the same 
element found in the specimen (there are distinct decay paths through which 
certain isotopes of elements can be produced, which has to do with isotope 
stability, which has to do with nuclear binding energy).

For example, radiocarbon dating (Willard Libby, Nobel Prize in Chemistry 
1960), can be used to determine the age of a specimen of a carbon-based 
lifeform based on the assumption that as its life ends, it no longer takes 
in any carbon, including the radioactive ¹⁴C that is produced in Terra’s 
atmosphere by cosmic rays hitting nitrogen molecules:

  n + ¹⁴₇N → ¹⁴₆C + p

The intaken carbon-14 is subject to radioactive (β⁻-)decay:

  ¹⁴₆C → ¹⁴₇N + e⁻ + ν_e

It is not renewed by intake, so the ratio of the ¹⁴C and the more common, 
stable ¹²C in the specimen is decreasing with time.  The half-life of ¹⁴C is 
ca. 5730 years, and given the ratio between ¹⁴C and ¹²C in a specimen, one 
can do the math.

> Perhaps you are having a difficult time parsing the synonomy between
> "one of the" and "a".

There is no synonomy.  Whether one atom of a specimen is decaying after a 
time, and whether several atoms of a specimen have already decayed, each 
with equal probability, within a time, are distinctly different facts.

Your problem is that you do not understand what half-life is, but that can 
be remedied by your reading the material that you dare cite to others.

F'up2 sci.physics

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                Re: Mercury's Precession Again tomyee3@gmail.com - 2016-06-14 04:22 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-14 04:49 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 04:52 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 04:53 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-14 05:32 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 06:10 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-14 06:38 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 09:45 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-14 19:13 +0200
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 12:01 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-14 21:34 +0200
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-14 08:38 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 09:49 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-15 10:20 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-15 11:36 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-15 13:17 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-15 16:16 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-15 17:32 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-16 04:39 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-16 10:55 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-16 21:10 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-17 10:34 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 03:45 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-18 14:31 +0000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-18 10:48 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 04:33 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-19 11:11 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 12:54 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-19 14:44 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 15:20 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-19 16:58 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 18:05 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-19 18:28 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 20:57 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-20 11:32 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 14:48 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-14 23:29 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-15 10:35 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-15 11:29 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-15 23:25 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-16 00:15 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-16 00:59 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-14 05:34 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-13 15:59 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again tomyee3@gmail.com - 2016-06-13 21:53 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-11 09:57 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-11 15:03 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-12 10:06 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-06-10 20:37 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 11:25 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-08 20:39 +0200
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 13:19 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-08 22:25 +0200
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 16:25 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 20:23 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 23:38 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-09 17:47 +0000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-10 18:40 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-02 10:24 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-06-01 06:38 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-31 21:35 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-01 00:57 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-17 08:46 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-17 17:48 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-29 17:52 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-05-01 08:14 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-30 16:00 -0700
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 11:27 -0700
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-28 12:19 -0700
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 14:44 -0700
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-29 09:11 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 12:11 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-29 17:14 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 03:55 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-03 13:35 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 15:43 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-05 17:38 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-05-06 04:06 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 10:16 -0700
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-04-28 16:06 -0500
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 00:14 -0700
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 10:19 -0700
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-02 10:28 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-02 09:36 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 14:20 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-05 13:27 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-05-05 16:45 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-05 17:50 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-05 22:05 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-07 09:31 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-08 06:41 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-07 14:03 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-05-09 03:42 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-08 12:17 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 12:23 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-05-09 19:44 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-09 05:21 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-09 08:00 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-07 15:42 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 08:05 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-09 15:02 +0000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 11:23 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-09 09:45 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-05-10 09:10 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-10 09:20 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-05-11 07:00 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-05-10 15:16 -0700
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 17:25 -0700
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 22:56 -0700
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-01 16:19 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-01 14:51 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 15:47 -0700
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-29 06:14 +1000
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-04-28 16:15 -0500
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-29 20:01 +1000
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 02:14 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-04 02:50 +1000
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 17:13 -0500
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-29 19:48 +1000
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 06:53 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-30 10:11 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 06:41 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-01 02:16 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 15:43 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-01 21:52 +0000
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-04-30 21:12 +0200
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-05-01 08:11 +1000
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-05-01 09:54 +0200
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-02 02:57 +1000
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 05:33 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-02 02:39 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-01 16:49 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-01 14:56 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <xxx@....> - 2016-05-03 10:02 +1000
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 00:01 -0700
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 17:03 -0700
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 22:46 -0700
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 23:58 -0700
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-05-17 02:47 -0700
    Re: Mercury's Precession Again Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-01 17:35 +0200
      Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-02 02:59 +1000
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 09:56 -0500
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <xxx@....> - 2016-05-03 10:08 +1000
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 07:19 -0500
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 07:26 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-04 03:20 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 13:09 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-03 21:33 +0200
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 14:56 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-03 22:55 +0200
      Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 09:54 -0500
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-03 19:17 +0200
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 13:08 -0500
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-03 21:21 +0200
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 19:28 -0700
    Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-28 19:51 +1000
      Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 05:04 -0700
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-29 06:20 +1000
    Re: Mercury's Precession Again Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-04-28 17:30 -0400
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 14:44 -0700
    Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-03 07:05 +1000
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-04 18:26 -0700
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 18:43 -0700
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 20:17 -0700
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-12 16:46 -0700
    Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-13 07:38 -0700
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-16 11:38 -0700
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-16 12:40 -0700
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-18 11:01 -0700

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