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Re: Mercury's Precession Again

From HGW <HGW@....>
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Subject Re: Mercury's Precession Again
Date 2016-04-29 06:14 +1000
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On 28/04/16 22:03, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
> On 27.04.2016 23:56, HGW wrote:

>> Many people tried to calculate it and came up with a variety of
>> figures and reasons for its existence. They all failed because
>> there is NO particular answer. The movement is chaotic.
>
> You are obviously talking of the Newtonian calculations of the
> perihelion precession of Mercury due to the pull of the other
> planets.

I am talking about the fact that in chaotic systems, very small
disturbances can result in very large changes down the track.


> Here are a few (of very many) calculations of the Newtonian
> prediction for the perihelion precession due to the pull of the
> planets.
>
> https://paulba.no/paper/Pollock.pdf In 1859 Le Verrier predicted 527
> arc sec per century.
>
> https://paulba.no/paper/Clemence.pdf In 1959 Clemens predicted 531.53
> arc sec per century.
>
> https://paulba.no/paper/Price_Rush.pdf In 1974 Price and Rush
> predicted 531.9 arc sec per century.
>
> http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/336k/Newtonhtml/node115.html A
> modern calculation predicts 532 arc sec per century
>
> The (very small) difference between the calculations are mostly
> caused by differences in data like planetary masses, etc. (Le
> Verrier's data for the planetary masses were a bit off)

I don't care what they tried to predict. They had no hope. There is no 
particular answer and even with today's best computers the overall 
influence of the other planets on an elliptical orbit would be 
impossible to predict for more than a few orbits.

> I challenge you to give one example of a calculation that divert
> significantly from the calculations above. Who "failed because there
> is NO particular answer"?

Like i said, they had no hope..

> Since the observed value is ~575 arcsec/century the Newtonian
> prediction is less than 8%,(43"/century) too small, a discrepancy
> which is exactly explained by relativistic effects.

Maths cannot cause physical effects. If such exist they are purely 
Newtonian and will be explainable in Newtonian terms.

GR is on par with Earth centrism and is likely to fluke a few correct 
Newtonian effects occasionally.

> Only a complete moron can claim that the precession is chaotic and
> unpredictable when it factually is predicted to be exactly what is
> observed.

It is wrongly predicted and wrongly observed. Read the papers your idiot 
prokaryotic colleague referred to. They typify attempts by desperate 
dingleberry conspirators to find just one piece of evidence that might 
support Einstein.
Note, anything that has even the slightest possibility of favouring GR 
will be published.

>> ...so the idiot Einstein's claim proves how low he and his
>> collaborators really were.
>>
>
> Since your claim is that the Newtonian prediction is unpredictable
> and chaotic, shouldn't you rather blame Newton?

Nobody in Newton's time could have possibly predicted Mercury's 
precession...it is still impossible to predict.

> Einstein never calculated how the pull from planets affects the orbit
> of Mercury. All Einstein did was to calculate what the precession
> would be if the other planets were not there. The answer is 43 arc
> secs per year.
>
> And that explains why the Newtonian calculation is 43 arc sec per
> year off.

Which year was that? It is off by a different amount each year...

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Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-28 02:22 +1000
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Cully When <cullywhen@invalid.net> - 2016-04-27 16:46 +0000
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-27 17:15 +0000
    Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 10:34 -0700
      Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 12:43 -0500
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 12:17 -0500
    Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-04-28 07:56 +1000
      Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 20:26 -0700
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-28 19:39 +1000
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 04:55 -0700
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 23:55 -0700
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 17:05 -0700
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 22:34 -0700
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 23:45 -0700
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      Re: Mercury's Precession Again "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-04-28 14:03 +0200
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-28 10:20 -0700
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-04-28 15:40 -0500
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              Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-29 11:56 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-29 20:37 +0000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-30 10:20 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-30 05:28 +0000
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                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-14 19:13 +0200
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 12:01 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-14 21:34 +0200
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-14 08:38 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 09:49 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-15 10:20 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-15 11:36 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-15 13:17 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-15 16:16 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-15 17:32 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-16 04:39 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-16 10:55 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-16 21:10 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-17 10:34 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 03:45 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-18 14:31 +0000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-18 10:48 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 04:33 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-19 11:11 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 12:54 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-19 14:44 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 15:20 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-19 16:58 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 18:05 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-19 18:28 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 20:57 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-20 11:32 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-14 14:48 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-14 23:29 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-15 10:35 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-15 11:29 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-15 23:25 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-16 00:15 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-16 00:59 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-14 05:34 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-13 15:59 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again tomyee3@gmail.com - 2016-06-13 21:53 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-11 09:57 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-11 15:03 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-12 10:06 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-06-10 20:37 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 11:25 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-08 20:39 +0200
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 13:19 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-06-08 22:25 +0200
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 16:25 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 20:23 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-06-08 23:38 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-09 17:47 +0000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-10 18:40 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-06-02 10:24 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-06-01 06:38 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-31 21:35 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-06-01 00:57 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-17 08:46 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-17 17:48 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-29 17:52 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-05-01 08:14 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-30 16:00 -0700
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 11:27 -0700
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-28 12:19 -0700
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 14:44 -0700
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-29 09:11 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 12:11 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-04-29 17:14 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 03:55 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-03 13:35 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 15:43 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-05 17:38 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-05-06 04:06 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 10:16 -0700
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-04-28 16:06 -0500
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 00:14 -0700
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 10:19 -0700
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-02 10:28 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-02 09:36 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 14:20 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-05 13:27 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-05-05 16:45 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-05 17:50 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-05 22:05 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-07 09:31 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-08 06:41 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-07 14:03 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-05-09 03:42 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-08 12:17 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 12:23 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-05-09 19:44 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-09 05:21 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-09 08:00 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-07 15:42 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 08:05 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-09 15:02 +0000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 11:23 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-09 09:45 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-05-10 09:10 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-10 09:20 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again "HGWilson, DSc." <hgw@....> - 2016-05-11 07:00 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-05-10 15:16 -0700
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 17:25 -0700
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 22:56 -0700
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-01 16:19 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-01 14:51 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 15:47 -0700
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-29 06:14 +1000
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-04-28 16:15 -0500
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-29 20:01 +1000
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 02:14 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-04 02:50 +1000
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 17:13 -0500
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-29 19:48 +1000
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 06:53 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-30 10:11 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 06:41 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-01 02:16 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 15:43 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-01 21:52 +0000
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-04-30 21:12 +0200
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <hw@...> - 2016-05-01 08:11 +1000
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-05-01 09:54 +0200
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-02 02:57 +1000
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 05:33 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-02 02:39 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-05-01 16:49 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-01 14:56 -0700
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <xxx@....> - 2016-05-03 10:02 +1000
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 00:01 -0700
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 17:03 -0700
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 22:46 -0700
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 23:58 -0700
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-05-17 02:47 -0700
    Re: Mercury's Precession Again Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-01 17:35 +0200
      Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-02 02:59 +1000
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 09:56 -0500
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <xxx@....> - 2016-05-03 10:08 +1000
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 07:19 -0500
              Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 07:26 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-04 03:20 +1000
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 13:09 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-03 21:33 +0200
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 14:56 -0500
                Re: Mercury's Precession Again Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-03 22:55 +0200
      Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 09:54 -0500
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-03 19:17 +0200
          Re: Mercury's Precession Again Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 13:08 -0500
            Re: Mercury's Precession Again Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-05-03 21:21 +0200
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 19:28 -0700
    Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-28 19:51 +1000
      Re: Mercury's Precession Again Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 05:04 -0700
        Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-29 06:20 +1000
    Re: Mercury's Precession Again Jackpol11@hotmail.com - 2016-04-28 17:30 -0400
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-01 14:44 -0700
    Re: Mercury's Precession Again HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-05-03 07:05 +1000
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-04 18:26 -0700
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 18:43 -0700
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 20:17 -0700
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-12 16:46 -0700
    Re: Mercury's Precession Again alsor@interia.pl - 2016-05-13 07:38 -0700
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-16 11:38 -0700
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-16 12:40 -0700
  Re: Mercury's Precession Again Carl Susumu <numbernumber1212@gmail.com> - 2016-05-18 11:01 -0700

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