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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.physics |
| Subject | Re: plasma not a state of matter for no longer a bonding Re: Does Maxwell theory and equations cover "plasma" |
| Date | 2016-04-24 15:42 -0500 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
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On 4/24/2016 12:52 AM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote: > On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 8:33:39 AM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> On 4/22/2016 4:01 PM, Archimedes Plutonium wrote: > (snipped) > >>> Then we would have to say in physics that ions are plasma and not a "state of matter". >> >> Plasma consists of ions, yes. >> > > Stop acting like some high priestess of science, for you are really awkward in science. No "high priestess" status is required. This is basic knowledge, which is available in encyclopedias, textbooks, or the internet. > >>> That a solid is a >>> larger electromagnetic bonding than a liquid, and a liquid a larger EM bonding than a gas, >> >> So far, so good. >> >>> and finally we >>> reach where there is no more "state of matter" for a plasma is energy, radiation, and no longer a bonding. >> >> No. What is true is that the temperatures are high enough where the >> electrons are no longer bound to the nuclei, and all atoms are >> dissociated into ions. But ions are not energy. >> > > States of Matter are about EM bonding, I'm sorry, but I disagree. Can you tell me whether you have looked up what defines states of matter, or whether this is something you have made up for yourself through philosophical reasoning? If the latter, please consider that YOUR definitions may conflict with the definitions as used by scientists. > if tightly bonded-- solid, if loosely-- liquid, if no bonding-- gas. So, plasma does not fit into the > critical definition of State of Matter-- the degree of bonding > >>> Plasma is not a physics state of matter. >> >> I disagree. >> > > Alright, that is a good reply. And shows that you can be a conversant in science. Where your posts > are not a blanket attack on whatever the other person says, and that you are willing to learn, not > just dish out your low opinion of the other person. I am always stating where I disagree with you. Especially when the disagreement stems from simple facts that can be looked up. > >>> >>>>> Well, the innermost stars of a spiral galaxy are seen as a fluid or gas that is solid-body rotation. >>>> >>>> Sorry, but fluids and gases are not solids. >>>> >>> >>> So here again, what makes a State of Matter is the degree of EM bonding of the particles involved. >> >> No. What makes a state of matter is whether it consists of a collection >> of interacting fermions. Electrons and nucleons are all fermions. Energy >> is not a collection of interacting fermions. >> > > Bs, pure bs. What makes a state of matter is the extent of the EM bonding of the particles involved. I'm sorry, but I really don't think that's true. From where do you get this statement? > Plasma has no EM bonding. > >> A state of matter is NOT defined by whether the fermions are assembled >> into neutral atoms. >> > > Back to your old high priestess frommpit. > > You could improve your posts immensely by posting with a real name. I'm sorry, but that is practically foolish on a public internet forum. > > AP > -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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Does Maxwell theory and equations cover "plasma" and derive plasma not as state of matter but as radiation energy Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 14:55 -0700
Re: Does Maxwell theory and equations cover "plasma" and derive plasma not as state of matter but as radiation energy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 18:21 -0500
Re: Does Maxwell theory and equations cover "plasma" and derive plasma not as state of matter but as radiation energy Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 22:29 -0700
Re: Does Maxwell theory and equations cover "plasma" and derive plasma not as state of matter but as radiation energy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 10:45 -0500
Re: Does Maxwell theory and equations cover "plasma" and derive plasma not as state of matter but as radiation energy Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 23:16 -0700
Re: Does Maxwell theory and equations cover "plasma" and derive plasma not as state of matter but as radiation energy Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 07:50 -0500
plasma not a state of matter for no longer a bonding Re: Does Maxwell theory and equations cover "plasma" Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 14:01 -0700
Re: plasma not a state of matter for no longer a bonding Re: Does Maxwell theory and equations cover "plasma" Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 22:34 -0700
Re: plasma not a state of matter for no longer a bonding Re: Does Maxwell theory and equations cover "plasma" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-24 14:57 -0500
Re: plasma not a state of matter for no longer a bonding Re: Does Maxwell theory and equations cover "plasma" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-23 08:33 -0500
Re: plasma not a state of matter for no longer a bonding Re: Does Maxwell theory and equations cover "plasma" Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-04-23 22:52 -0700
Re: plasma not a state of matter for no longer a bonding Re: Does Maxwell theory and equations cover "plasma" benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-24 02:02 -0400
Re: plasma not a state of matter for no longer a bonding Re: Does Maxwell theory and equations cover "plasma" Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-24 15:42 -0500
States of Matter in Physics is just a simplistic classification of the degree of EM bonding and there are only 3 states of matter Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-04-24 15:03 -0700
Re: States of Matter in Physics is just a simplistic classification of the degree of EM bonding and there are only 3 states of matter Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 06:37 -0500
plasma is not a "state of matter" but is energy, and evidence of this comes from size of Stars Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-04-25 23:38 -0700
Re: plasma is not a "state of matter" but is energy, and evidence of this comes from size of Stars Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 08:50 -0500
Re: plasma is not a "state of matter" but is energy, and evidence of this comes from size of Stars Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 09:48 -0500
Re: plasma is not a "state of matter" but is energy, and evidence of this comes from size of Stars moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-26 14:54 +0000
radius of Sun conform to gravity? Re: plasma is not a "state of matter" but is energy, and evidence of this comes from size of Stars Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 19:50 -0700
radius of Sun conform to gravity? Re: plasma is not a "state of matter" but is energy, and evidence of this comes from size of Stars Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 01:42 -0700
Re: radius of Sun conform to gravity? Re: plasma is not a "state of matter" but is energy, and evidence of this comes from size of Stars moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-28 17:02 +0000
cheers to all the illogical people that infest science Re: plasma is not a "state of matter" but is energy, and evidence of this comes from size of Stars Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 15:21 -0700
Re: cheers to all the illogical people that infest science Re: plasma is not a "state of matter" but is energy, and evidence of this comes from size of Stars Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 17:25 -0500
Re: cheers to all the illogical people that infest science Re: plasma is not a "state of matter" but is energy, and evidence of this comes from size of Stars Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 22:32 -0700
Re: cheers to all the illogical people that infest science Re: plasma is not a "state of matter" but is energy, and evidence of this comes from size of Stars Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 09:57 -0500
dumb people in physics that mistake a Classification scheme for reality Re: plasma is not a "state of matter" but is energy, and evidence of this comes from size of Stars Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 15:35 -0700
Re: dumb people in physics that mistake a Classification scheme for reality Re: plasma is not a "state of matter" but is energy, and evidence of this comes from size of Stars Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 06:56 -0500
Re: cheers to all the illogical people that infest science Re: plasma is not a "state of matter" but is energy, and evidence of this comes from size of Stars moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-29 05:06 +0000
radius of Sun conform to gravity? Re: plasma is not a "state of matter" but is energy, and evidence of this comes from size of Stars Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 13:57 -0700
Re: radius of Sun conform to gravity? Re: plasma is not a "state of matter" but is energy, and evidence of this comes from size of Stars "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 16:28 -0700
Re: radius of Sun conform to gravity? Re: plasma is not a "state of matter" but is energy, and evidence of this comes from size of Stars Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 22:43 -0700
Re: radius of Sun conform to gravity? Re: plasma is not a "state of matter" but is energy, and evidence of this comes from size of Stars Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 23:49 -0700
Re: plasma not a state of matter for no longer a bonding Re: Does Maxwell theory and equations cover "plasma" "nuny@bid.nes" <Alien8752@gmail.com> - 2016-04-24 16:18 -0700
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