Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > sci.physics > #572142

Re: A message for Odd Boinker about books.

Show all headers | View raw

On 4/21/2016 11:25 AM, benj wrote:
> On 04/21/2016 11:42 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 4/20/2016 11:27 PM, benj wrote:
>>>
>>> "You know we receive an education in the schools from books. All those
>>> books that people became educated from twenty-five years ago, are wrong
>>> now, and those that are good now, will be wrong again twenty-five years
>>> from now. So if they are wrong then, they are also wrong now, and the
>>> one who is educated from the wrong books is not educated, he is misled.
>>> All books that are written are wrong, the one who is not educated cannot
>>> write a book and the one who is educated, is really not educated but he
>>> is misled and the one who is misled cannot write a book which is
>>> correct."
>>>
>>> Ed Leedskalnin  (Kook)
>>
>> I heartily disagree with Leedskalnin, agree that he is quite the kook,
>> and I note that Ed published several books himself and so must not
>> consider them as useless as you are interpreting his words to mean.
>
> AH, right. without peer reviews and approval by establishment
> publishers, nothing can be true!

Oh, I'm sure that things outside of books can be true. This doesn't 
mean, however, that everything that's in books is false. That would be 
faulty logic there, Ben.

> I"m pretty sure that a back yard full
> of huge stones is proof of kookship. You've got that in your backyard
> too, right?
>
>> It is true that SOME books written 25 years ago have PORTIONS of the
>> book that are now wrong. MOST books, however, do not have any portions
>> that are now wrong. Moreover, even those books that do have those
>> portions that need updating are not WHOLLY wrong; they are only wrong in
>> portion.
>
> This shows why it's important to have "official" versions of all books.
> That way one can always be protected by those in authority from heresy
> and erroneous thoughts.
>
> I like your ideas on a free press. HVAC loves them too. He loves a
> police state.

I do like a mixture of publication channels, where some are completely 
free to all writers, and where some have editorial control. You despise 
the latter with a passion, and call it intolerable censorship. I don't.

>
>
>> Thus books have value ON THE WHOLE, even though ALL of our knowledge
>> base is provisional and it is understood by all that future research may
>> change some aspects of it. To say that unless a book is guaranteed to be
>> WHOLLY CORRECT for ALL TIME -- that is, containing absolute truth --
>> then it is worthless, well, that's a useless position as far as I'm
>> concerned. There is NO source of information anywhere that can carry
>> that guarantee, but that's not a reason to reject it on the whole.
>
> But then that means there is no reason to ACCEPT it on the whole either
> as you constantly promote!

I certainly don't say all books should be wholly accepted. But, Ben, you 
don't have just two choices: accept the whole thing or reject the whole 
thing. You are crippled by your black-and-white thinking.

>
> Looks like you and not Ed are the Kook here. Do you believe in ghosts,
> ESP and Remote viewing. HVAC does. He's Gay too.
>
> (Sorry for constantly referring to HVAC but he stalks me and always
> monitors what I say to you. He is the group moderator, you know.)
>
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Back to sci.physics | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread

Thread

A message for Odd Boinker about books. benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 00:27 -0400
  A message for Odd Boinker about books. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 02:53 -0700
    Re: A message for Odd Boinker about books. benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 11:47 -0400
      Re: A message for Odd Boinker about books. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 17:14 -0700
        Re: A message for Odd Boinker about books. benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 22:24 -0400
          Re: A message for Odd Boinker about books. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 06:20 -0700
            Re: A message for Odd Boinker about books. benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-22 11:54 -0400
              Re: A message for Odd Boinker about books. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 09:41 -0700
                Re: A message for Odd Boinker about books. benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-22 12:57 -0400
                Re: A message for Odd Boinker about books. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 10:09 -0700
                Re: A message for Odd Boinker about books. benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-22 14:25 -0400
  A message for Odd Boinker about books. HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 03:00 -0700
    Re: A message for Odd Boinker about books. benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 11:50 -0400
  Re: A message for Odd Boinker about books. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 10:42 -0500
    Re: A message for Odd Boinker about books. benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 12:25 -0400
      Re: A message for Odd Boinker about books. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 11:45 -0500
        Re: A message for Odd Boinker about books. benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-04-21 22:14 -0400
          Re: A message for Odd Boinker about books. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 07:45 -0500

csiph-web