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| From | Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.usenet.kooks |
| Subject | Re: OK, you experts |
| Date | 2016-04-15 22:58 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <nes9hs$jpp$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | (3 earlier) <sandman-a7f7f5123c34381e456b85b6a46588ba@individual.net> <hOidnREaZKQFw4zKnZ2dnUU7-WHNnZ2d@giganews.com> <dnde87Fddd5U1@mid.individual.net> <466cb7ab-7301-444c-affc-00884c5a6fdd@googlegroups.com> <dndmdpFddd5U8@mid.individual.net> |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On 16 Apr 2016 02:30:17 GMT, vallor wrote: > On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 18:46:25 -0700, -hh wrote: > >> vallor wrote: >>> Marek Novotny wrote: >>> >>> > On 2016-04-15, Sandman <mr@sandman.net> wrote: >>> >> Seeing how open source, bash (BSD 1988), vim (Amiga 1991) and emacs >>> >> (ITS 1976) have exactly nothing to do with Linux, I fail to see your >>> >> point here. >>> >> >>> >> >>> > That's because you're clueless. You'll figure it out... Or not... >>> > Maybe one of your more enlightened friends will do you the courtesy >>> > of explaining it to you. Me, I just love it when an idiot displays a >>> > lack of knowledge in a subject he chooses to argue about. Now I >>> > predict you'll run back to google and wikipedia and see where you >>> > went wrong. Then you'll feel all embarrassed and the clarification, >>> > also known as back peddling will begin. Word to the foolish... Know >>> > your subject first. >> >> Noted: Ad Hominem attack attempt, thereby avoiding the more honest >> approach of actually resolving the dispute with germane, objective >> verifiable facts. >> >>> > You may begin your back peddling now... I can't wait... :) >>> >>> Sandman is a mac advocacy troll. >>> >>> His schtick is to minimize the role of Linux in modern systems >>> development. He probably doesn't believe what he writes, but who >>> knows? >> >> Also noted: a second Ad Hominem attack attempt, also choosing to avoid >> the honesty approach of resolving the dispute with germane, objective >> verifiable facts. >> >> - - - - - >> >> So then boys, > > Fuck off. He nailed you Bloaty. >> rather than to try to continue to lamely "attack the >> person', how about you actually substantiate your claim? > > Because a person's reputation is not a logical argument, it is their > reputation: a myriad of many factors, including past behavior. I wouldn't go there if I were you Bloaty. You will lose big time. > "Hugh"'s reputation, for example, is that he is an apologist for > extremely nasty trolls, making all sorts of machinations to try to twist > what they do into something worthy of even being read. We're talking > libel and defamation, not just insults. HH seems logical and maybe a bit sterile and detail oriented. You OTOH are strange and nasty. All this OBLinux crap is just plain weird. > By the way, "hh", you are a pretentious piece of eurotrash-wannabe. > Kindly die in a fire. And you eat too much and don't exercise enough. > Now that we've established where this wackadoodle is wrong above, lets > move on to what is sure to be more of him being wrong: Stop borrowing my word. >> >> Otherwise, the point that Sandman made, namely that these products all >> very clearly existed long before Linux was born, is pretty damn >> indisputable. >> Thus, that MS adopting them has nothing to do with adopting Linux. > > MS adopting ubuntu userspace includes a syscall translator with the > filename lxss.sys. While one might think that it would be called "Linux > subsystem for Windows", it is actually being referred to as "Windows > subsystem for Linux". No matter what they call it, it is clear that > Linux is very much involved with the project. Geek noise. Microsoft is in business to make money. If they can con you Linux losers into giving away your software so be it. Oops, you loons already do that. Fools. > And in the demonstrations Microsoft streamed from their Build conference, > it was clear that they were proud that the lxss was the avenue that would > give them vim, emacs, and so forth. So to pretend that Ubuntu's support > for these applications is somehow not relevant is extremely disingenuous. Who cares? You and a handful of other clueless geeks? > As per usual from cola trolls. Like "hh". He doesn't look like a troll to me. You OTH do look like a netkopper troll. > >> >> As such, it is quite clear > > Whenever some clown says something is "quite clear", watch out, they will > try to sell you your own hat. When someone says "fuck you" as their opening salvo, they don't follow up with a pile of shit commentary like you just did. >> that you've now painted yourself into a >> logical corner that will require a working time machine to escape. > > Except, the premises of "hugh's" argument are suspect, which makes his > argument suspect. Further, it could be argued that what follows from his > premises do not necessarily support the conclusions, which would make his > argument unsound, too. Logic isn't your strong point is it Bloaty? > This, coupled with the fact that "hugh's" arguments have been irrelevant > for many years, leads me to the conclusion that it would serve no further > purpose to continue with this discussion. However, I'm curious what he's > written below, so I will dive in and see what it looks like: Linux as a competitor to Windows desktop has been irrelevant for years. About 21 in fact. >> >> After all, only a dishonest troll would avoid the simple approach of >> just directly pointing out the relevant facts that support and >> substantiate the 'cater to Linux' claim ... typically what those sorts >> of loser trolls do is to try to distract readers with some sort of >> irrelevant red herring, such as a lame Ad Hominem attack. > > So an ad hominem attack, such as hugh referring to people he disagrees > with as "only a dishonest troll" and "loser trolls", is quite fine by him. And you are a spineless netkopper. > Besides the attempt at role-reversal, it would seem "hugh" thinks that > following up an (alleged) ad hominem argument with another ad hominem > argument is somehow logical. No, that is the "you too" fallacy. I'll bet you would love to reverse your role. After all, just about anyone or anything would be an improvement over your sad current state. Has anyone told you that you look like Jabba The Hutt? You do. Slimer is right. Scott Doty (vallor) really does look like Jabba The Hutt. Scott: https://www.sonic.com/sites/default/files/headshots/Scott-Color-6_0.jpg Jabba https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/87/Jabba_the_Hutt.png They could be cousins! You are boring me.
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OK, you experts Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-04-13 19:41 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Silver Slimer <maGNUm@lin.sux> - 2016-04-13 20:01 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-13 17:07 -0700
Re: OK, you experts William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-04-14 12:23 +0100
Re: OK, you experts Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-14 12:35 +0100
Re: OK, you experts "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.invalid> - 2016-04-14 11:51 +0000
Re: OK, you experts William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-04-14 13:16 +0100
Re: OK, you experts Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-14 13:50 +0100
Re: OK, you experts Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-14 17:41 +0200
Re: OK, you experts William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-04-14 17:45 +0100
Re: OK, you experts Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-19 10:04 +0100
Re: OK, you experts Silver Slimer <maGNUm@lin.sux> - 2016-04-14 11:05 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-14 08:28 -0700
Re: OK, you experts Incubus <incubus9536612@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 08:35 -0700
Re: OK, you experts chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-14 11:05 -0500
Re: OK, you experts Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-14 09:30 -0700
Re: OK, you experts Silver Slimer <linux@shit.is> - 2016-04-14 13:02 -0400
Re: OK, you experts William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-04-14 17:51 +0100
Re: OK, you experts chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-14 12:38 -0500
Re: OK, you experts Silver Slimer <linux@shit.is> - 2016-04-14 14:15 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Silver Slimer <linux@shit.is> - 2016-04-14 12:56 -0400
Re: OK, you experts vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-15 06:53 +0000
Re: OK, you experts William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-04-15 10:09 +0100
Re: OK, you experts Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-15 08:12 -0400
Re: OK, you experts vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-15 19:57 +0000
Re: OK, you experts Silver Slimer <linux@shit.is> - 2016-04-15 17:19 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-04-15 19:44 +0000
Re: OK, you experts Me Sham <osirus47@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-15 12:49 -0700
Re: OK, you experts Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-15 14:35 -0700
Re: OK, you experts Silver Slimer <linux@shit.is> - 2016-04-15 18:28 -0400
Re: OK, you experts vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-16 00:10 +0000
Re: OK, you experts -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-15 18:46 -0700
Re: OK, you experts Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-15 21:50 -0400
Re: OK, you experts vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-16 02:30 +0000
Re: OK, you experts Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-15 22:58 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-16 06:52 -0400
Re: OK, you experts William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-04-16 13:30 +0100
OK, you coo coo trolls Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-16 08:42 -0400
Re: OK, you coo coo trolls Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-16 09:07 -0400
Re: OK, you coo coo trolls William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-04-16 14:23 +0100
Re: OK, you coo coo trolls Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-16 09:31 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-16 08:59 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-16 08:57 -0400
Re: OK, you experts vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-16 15:34 +0000
Re: OK, you experts Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-16 13:32 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-16 11:09 -0700
Re: OK, you experts DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-16 18:27 -0400
Re: OK, you experts chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-18 08:51 -0500
Re: OK, you experts -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-18 10:43 -0700
Re: OK, you experts Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-18 11:10 -0700
Re: OK, you experts -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-16 13:57 -0700
Re: OK, you experts Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-16 14:13 -0700
Re: OK, you experts -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-16 16:30 -0700
Re: OK, you experts Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-16 19:45 -0700
Re: OK, you experts ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 04:04 +0000
Re: OK, you experts Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-04-17 09:11 -0400
Re: OK, you experts -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-17 06:49 -0700
Re: I don't use Ubuntu, so I don't care. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-17 18:23 -0700
Re: Is every Microsoft server now a Linux server too ? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-18 04:25 -0700
Re: OK, you experts DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-17 14:39 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-04-18 19:52 -0400
Re: OK, you experts -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-17 06:28 -0700
Re: OK, you experts chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-18 13:00 -0500
Re: OK, you experts -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-18 12:00 -0700
Re: OK, you experts Incubus <incubus9536612@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 02:30 -0700
Re: OK, you experts Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-19 05:58 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Incubus <incubus9536612@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 04:08 -0700
Re: OK, you experts Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-19 08:35 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Incubus <incubus9536612@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 06:06 -0700
Re: OK, you experts Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-19 10:03 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Incubus <incubus9536612@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 07:25 -0700
re: OK, you experts "Henry" <henry@alpha.org> - 2016-04-20 14:20 +0200
Re: OK, you experts -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-19 04:10 -0700
Re: OK, you experts Incubus <incubus9536612@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 04:38 -0700
Re: OK, you experts Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-19 08:37 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Incubus <incubus9536612@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 06:08 -0700
Re: OK, you experts chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-19 08:43 -0500
Re: OK, you experts chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-19 09:47 -0500
Re: OK, you experts Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-19 09:13 -0700
Re: OK, you experts -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-19 09:55 -0700
Re: OK, you experts chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-19 13:10 -0500
Re: OK, you experts sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-20 08:55 -0300
Re: OK, you experts -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-20 10:01 -0700
Re: OK, you experts sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-21 08:29 -0300
Re: OK, you experts chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-21 06:54 -0500
Re: OK, you experts owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-21 14:18 +0000
Re: OK, you experts DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-21 11:16 -0400
Re: OK, you experts DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-21 12:12 -0400
Re: OK, you experts sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-22 08:32 -0300
Re: OK, you experts -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-22 04:59 -0700
Re: OK, you experts Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-22 07:11 -0700
Re: OK, you experts -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-22 07:41 -0700
Re: OK, you experts sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-23 08:41 -0300
Re: OK, you experts -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-23 06:35 -0700
Re: OK, you experts sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-23 13:39 -0300
Re: OK, you experts -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-24 04:48 -0700
Re: OK, you experts sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-26 08:26 -0300
Re: OK, you experts DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-25 09:59 -0400
Re: OK, you experts sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-26 08:25 -0300
Re: OK, you experts DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-22 10:08 -0400
Re: OK, you experts sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-23 08:35 -0300
re: OK, you experts "KLH" <klh_man@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 16:30 +0200
Re: OK, you experts sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-23 08:33 -0300
Re: OK, you experts ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 17:10 +0000
Re: OK, you experts DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-21 12:13 -0400
Re: OK, you experts sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-22 08:40 -0300
Re: OK, you experts DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-20 10:09 -0400
re: OK, you experts "KLH" <klh_man@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 17:47 +0200
Re: OK, you experts Silver Slimer <peter@klown.is> - 2016-04-19 12:08 -0400
Re: OK, you experts chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-19 08:05 -0500
Re: OK, you experts Incubus <incubus9536612@gmail.com> - 2016-04-19 06:13 -0700
Re: OK, you experts Silver Slimer <peter@klown.is> - 2016-04-19 09:16 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-19 10:04 -0400
Re: OK, you experts DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-18 16:20 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-04-17 09:05 +0000
Re: OK, you experts Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-17 07:32 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-04-17 13:35 +0000
Re: OK, you experts Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-17 12:07 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-17 09:24 -0700
Re: OK, you experts Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-17 14:10 -0400
Re: OK, you experts DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-17 15:03 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-04-18 12:18 +0000
Re: OK, you experts Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 09:24 -0700
Re: OK, you experts Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-04-17 21:42 +0000
Re: OK, you experts Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-17 18:23 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-04-18 07:43 +0000
Re: OK, you experts Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-18 05:45 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-04-18 10:07 +0000
Re: OK, you experts Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-18 06:28 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-04-18 13:20 +0000
Re: OK, you experts Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-18 11:27 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-04-18 17:37 +0000
Re: OK, you experts Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-18 14:28 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-04-18 20:52 +0000
Re: OK, you experts Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-18 11:29 -0400
Re: OK, you experts -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-18 10:14 -0700
Re: OK, you experts Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-04-18 17:42 +0000
Re: OK, you experts Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-18 14:29 -0400
Re: OK, you experts chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-18 13:42 -0500
Re: OK, you experts Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-18 15:56 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-04-18 20:45 +0000
Re: OK, you experts vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-19 08:14 +0000
Re: OK, you experts Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-04-19 08:59 +0000
Re: OK, you experts Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-19 05:51 -0400
Re: OK, you experts vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-19 19:11 +0000
Re: OK, you experts Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-19 09:32 -0700
Re: OK, you experts Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-04-18 20:44 +0000
Re: OK, you experts Silver Slimer <peter@klown.is> - 2016-04-18 17:51 -0400
Re: OK, you experts DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-18 10:49 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Me Sham <osirus47@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-18 08:05 -0700
Re: OK, you experts DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-17 14:34 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-04-16 09:00 +0000
Re: OK, you experts JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-04-14 16:41 -0500
Re: OK, you experts Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-13 21:01 -0400
Re: OK, you experts DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-13 21:14 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-14 08:35 +0000
Re: OK, you experts John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 04:03 -0700
Re: OK, you experts DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-14 13:03 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Incubus <incubus9536612@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 02:25 -0700
Re: OK, you experts vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-15 06:56 +0000
Re: OK, you experts Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-15 01:14 -0700
Re: OK, you experts Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-15 05:54 -0400
Re: OK, you experts chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-15 07:00 -0500
Re: OK, you experts Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-15 08:11 -0400
Re: OK, you experts DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-15 14:38 -0400
Re: OK, you experts DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-16 18:29 -0400
Re: OK, you experts Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 02:20 -0700
Is there any serious M$Office competitor yet? Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 02:27 -0700
Re: OK, you experts Homer <usenet@slated.org> - 2016-04-20 14:05 +0100
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