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Re: Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux

From	Desk Rabbit <me@example.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux
Date	2016-04-12 09:20 +0100
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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On 11/04/2016 19:51, owl wrote:
> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>> On 11/04/2016 15:34, owl wrote:
>>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>>>> On 11/04/2016 14:14, owl wrote:
>>>>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/04/2016 11:48, Fabian Russell wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 11:03:32 +0100, Desk Roach wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://uit.stanford.edu/service/help/hardwarerec/computers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!  What a brain-dead moron!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That web page is for the rank-and-file office personnel,
>>>>>>> i.e. the dumb-fuck middle managers and retarded secretaries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's under Faculty and Staff which as any schoolboy knows means the
>>>>>> teachers (Professors) and the admin staff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The REAL research professionals use GNU/Linux only.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yet you can't actually show one single verifiable example of that beyond
>>>>>> an open source audio project.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The students don't use Linux Desktop Crapware either, it's Windows and
>>>>>> Macs all the way.
>>>>>
>>>>> ....
>>>>>
>>>>>> You are the one desperately flailing around and searching for any small
>>>>>> crumb of Linux usage.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://uit.stanford.edu/service/softwarelic/linux
>>>>
>>>
>>> Snip the truth, because it hurts.
>>> <quote>
>>> Linux is an open-source operating system used by many units across
>>> Stanford.
>>> </quote>
>>
>> Although everything so far including the web site and video evidence has
>> pointed to the contrary. There might be a few use cases, I'll grant you
>> that.
>>
>>>
>>>> "On June 1, 2015, University IT's agreement with Red Hat expired, and
>>>> the centrally managed Red Hat repository (aka Satellite or yum server)
>>>> is no longer available. View the official announcement for more
>>>> information."
>>>>
>>>> No internal support - you are on your own:
>>>>
>>>> "Product Support
>>>>
>>>> Debian and Ubuntu Linux
>>>>
>>>> Online support may be found through the open source communities, or
>>>> buying a support contract from a designated professional support service"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, they really believe in Linux.......
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, IT won't have a clue as to how to help with Linux.
>>> <quote>
>>> University IT generally works with Debian, and Ubuntu. UIT provides
>>> local mirrors of these versions of Linux for local Stanford users.
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Additional Stanford-specific Software Packages
>>>
>>> University IT staff develop a variety of Stanford-specific software
>>> packages for Linux systems. These include:
>>>
>>> filter-syslog
>>> remctl
>>> wallet-client
>>
>> Three apps. Count 'em. WOW!
>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Add the following to the file '/etc/apt/sources.list':
>>> deb http://debian.stanford.edu/debian-stanford jessie main
>>>
>>> </quote>
>>>
>>
>> And all completely unsupported by internal IT support. You are on your own.
>>
>> <quote>
>> Product Support
>>
>> Debian and Ubuntu Linux
>>
>> Online support may be found through the open source communities, or
>> buying a support contract from a designated professional support service
>> </quote>
>>
>> And let's just read that bit again about the most mainstream Linux
>> server operating system....
>>
>> <quote>
>> On June 1, 2015, University IT's agreement with Red Hat expired, and the
>> centrally managed Red Hat repository (aka Satellite or yum server) is no
>> longer available. View the official announcement for more information.
>> </quote>
>>
>
> Somebody finally clued management in that they didn't need to waste
> their money on a "support contract" for their Linux users.  And I
> can guarantee you that IT would far rather help one of their Linux
> users who might be having trouble with something than to face the
> malware grind in Windoze land, so this "talk to debian for support"
> is complete bullshit.

You got a link to that? If you take a look at this link for students 
getting started there is no mention of Linux
https://uit.stanford.edu/service/computing/students

Same for faculty
https://uit.stanford.edu/service/computing/faculty

When it comes to software, no sign of any Linux support
https://uit.stanford.edu/service/ess/

>
>> And let's also not forget that the main campus email is Office 365 and
>> Exchange server, not some half baked Linux solution.
>
> Did you have a link to that?  I didn't see it.
>

https://uit.stanford.edu/emailcalendar/

And linked from all the links above for students and faculty.

Thread

Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-10 13:51 +0000
  Re: Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-10 09:56 -0400
    Re: Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 07:08 -0700
      Re: Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-10 10:10 -0400
        Re: Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-10 22:33 -0400
          Is this normal guy problems..about to cry! :( DFS <nospam@dfs.cum> - 2016-04-11 00:24 -0500
          Re: Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-11 09:24 +0000
            Re: Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-11 12:44 -0400
    Re: Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-10 16:11 -0300
  Re: Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-10 14:22 -0400
    Re: Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-10 16:14 -0300
  Re: Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-11 11:03 +0100
    Re: Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-11 10:48 +0000
      Re: Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-11 13:33 +0100
        Re: Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-11 13:14 +0000
          Re: Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-11 10:01 -0400
            Re: Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-11 14:38 +0000
          Re: Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-11 15:09 +0100
            Re: Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-11 14:34 +0000
              Re: Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-11 16:34 +0100
                Re: Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-11 18:51 +0000
                Re: Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-12 09:20 +0100
                Re: Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-04-12 08:39 +0000
                Re: Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-12 08:51 +0000
                Re: Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-12 09:56 +0100
            Re: Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux Me Sham <osirus47@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-11 07:57 -0700
              Re: Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux Omar <omarsayeed@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-11 11:22 -0400
      Re: Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-11 13:49 +0100
        Re: Only the Best People Use GNU/Linux John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 09:07 -0700

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