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Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate?

From occam <occam@nowhere.nix>
Newsgroups alt.usage.english
Subject Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate?
Date 2026-08-15 12:54 +0200
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On 15/08/2026 02:12, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 15/08/26 07:24, occam wrote:
> 
>> Sam, a proudly Scottish friend of mine recently tested his ancestry.
>> It was a gift 'kit' from his daughters.  The results showed that he
>> had 70% Irish ancestry. His daughters and friends tease him now by
>> calling him 'Paddy'.  And yes, it has changed his opinion of his
>> Scottish-ness .
> 
> It shouldn't. The Scots originally reached Scotland from Ireland.
> They're the same people, apart from some English and Pictish contribution.
> 
> My own ancestry shows up as 56% Irish, about a quarter Scottish, and
> then bits and pieces from places like Normandy and Belgium. I did get a
> shock, though, to discover that I had an English ancestor.
> 

There you go (that last bit).  When you think you are one thing, and it
turns out you are tainted by another. My parents are both Armenian, and
of Armenian descent. But who knows what else lurks in those Middle
Eastern genes? (I'd have to spit at my reflection in the mirror if I
knew there were <spit!> Turkish genes in me.)

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Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-10 08:16 +0200
  Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-10 08:02 +0100
    Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-10 10:21 +0200
    Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-10 21:32 +0100
      Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-11 07:00 +0100
        Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-11 17:45 +1000
          Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-08-11 15:19 +0000
          Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-11 20:46 +0100
            Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-08-11 16:40 -0400
            Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-12 06:15 +0100
              Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-12 15:26 +1000
              Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-08-12 09:49 +0200
              Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-12 09:57 +0200
              Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-08-12 15:25 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-12 20:38 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-12 22:28 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-08-13 01:02 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-13 08:37 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-13 10:39 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-13 21:05 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-13 11:54 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-08-13 14:26 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-13 17:11 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-13 21:58 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-14 08:22 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-14 11:53 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-14 21:26 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-14 20:48 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-13 22:40 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-08-13 09:56 -0700
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-08-13 10:16 -0700
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-13 21:06 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-08-13 19:14 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-14 08:02 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> - 2026-08-14 15:05 -0400
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 09:30 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> - 2026-08-14 19:56 -0400
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 10:17 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-15 07:42 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> - 2026-08-15 05:31 -0400
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 20:36 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 16:45 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 17:27 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-15 22:22 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-15 20:20 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-16 09:11 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-08-16 08:37 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-16 10:15 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-08-16 10:55 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-16 11:03 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 20:52 -0400
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 11:43 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-08-15 01:59 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 22:08 -0400
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> - 2026-08-17 11:51 -0400
                Woke, wokest? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-15 07:38 +0200
                Re: Woke, wokest? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-15 12:18 +0200
                Re: Woke, wokest? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-15 20:44 +0200
                Re: Woke, wokest? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-15 20:20 +0100
                Re: Woke, wokest? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-16 09:18 +1000
                Re: Woke, wokest? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-16 08:04 +0200
                Re: Woke, wokest? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-16 09:25 +0200
                Re: Woke, wokest? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-16 09:32 +0100
                Re: Woke, wokest? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-15 22:29 +0100
                Re: Woke, wokest? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-16 11:22 +0200
                Re: Woke, wokest? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-16 20:54 +1000
                Re: Woke, wokest? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-17 07:50 +0200
                Re: Woke, wokest? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-17 21:36 +0100
                Re: Woke, wokest? wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-08-17 22:38 +0000
                Re: Woke, wokest? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-16 13:00 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-14 08:33 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-15 07:32 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-14 09:09 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-14 12:00 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-14 21:13 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-14 13:35 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-14 13:14 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-14 14:31 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-08-14 17:48 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-14 19:07 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-13 22:40 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-13 20:31 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-08-13 19:55 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-15 19:53 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-15 20:48 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-15 22:31 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-16 06:02 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-16 09:27 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-13 22:02 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-14 14:25 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-14 15:30 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> - 2026-08-14 10:00 -0400
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-14 15:49 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> - 2026-08-14 11:09 -0400
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-14 16:50 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 10:38 -0700
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-14 19:48 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-15 19:54 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 09:42 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 07:38 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 16:37 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 10:30 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-15 09:46 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-15 09:47 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 16:48 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-16 09:37 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-16 08:16 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-16 08:36 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-16 10:17 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-16 11:17 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-16 14:02 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-16 12:11 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-16 20:59 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-16 21:04 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-16 18:05 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-17 08:28 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-17 10:54 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-08-16 19:21 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-16 21:10 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-16 21:05 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-15 22:36 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 20:39 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-15 13:25 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 10:52 -0400
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> - 2026-08-14 11:12 -0400
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-08-14 15:45 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> - 2026-08-14 13:24 -0400
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-08-14 17:36 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-08-14 18:47 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> - 2026-08-14 15:03 -0400
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 15:44 -0400
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 07:47 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 16:40 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 10:36 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 20:44 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 16:53 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 10:00 -0400
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-15 02:24 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 21:49 -0400
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 07:53 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-15 06:41 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-15 07:57 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-15 10:13 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 16:59 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> - 2026-08-15 05:41 -0400
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-15 11:22 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-15 19:35 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 12:07 -0400
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> - 2026-08-14 13:29 -0400
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 11:35 -0700
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> - 2026-08-14 14:59 -0400
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                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 15:46 -0400
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-15 10:16 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-08-15 10:46 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 10:41 -0400
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-08-15 19:29 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 17:33 -0400
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-15 22:52 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 17:05 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-08-15 17:15 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-08-15 20:31 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 21:37 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-08-15 19:38 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-15 21:18 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-08-15 22:45 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-15 22:11 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-08-16 08:59 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-16 10:38 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-16 12:11 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-14 21:05 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-15 20:04 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 10:42 -0700
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-14 21:01 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> - 2026-08-14 16:13 -0400
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 16:26 -0400
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 16:24 -0400
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-15 06:59 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-15 22:59 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Phil <phil@anonymous.invalid> - 2026-08-16 00:18 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 07:59 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 09:39 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 19:44 -0700
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-15 10:27 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 09:55 -0400
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-15 21:42 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-15 12:28 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-15 23:03 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-08-15 10:51 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 20:59 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-15 13:02 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-15 20:32 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-08-13 23:03 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-14 08:43 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-14 13:04 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-15 13:06 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-15 13:59 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-15 17:25 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-15 15:46 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-15 16:54 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-15 19:53 +0200
                There was a crroked man and he stole a crooked straight Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-16 06:14 +0200
                Re: There was a crroked man and he stole a crooked straight Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-16 21:14 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-08-15 21:28 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-15 23:10 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-16 03:17 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-08-16 18:42 +1200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2026-08-17 04:10 -0300
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-17 10:54 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-18 08:51 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-18 11:56 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-18 10:48 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-18 19:28 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-18 23:15 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2026-08-19 18:49 -0300
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-19 17:56 -0400
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-20 02:36 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-19 21:48 -0400
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-20 09:57 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-20 11:34 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-08-15 17:15 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-16 10:20 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-18 11:56 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-16 09:41 +0200
                North and South Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-15 20:35 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-16 09:41 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-15 16:54 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-15 20:37 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-15 23:14 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-16 10:30 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-16 03:20 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-08-15 20:47 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-16 06:19 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-16 21:21 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-17 07:48 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-17 21:39 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-18 04:28 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-18 14:12 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-16 09:41 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-14 14:19 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-08-14 18:10 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> - 2026-08-14 13:30 -0400
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-15 10:07 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-15 13:32 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-15 21:41 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-14 21:10 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-15 19:46 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-15 22:01 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-16 06:48 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-13 22:40 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-08-14 12:17 +0530
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-14 12:04 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-14 13:55 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-14 13:04 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-14 21:19 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-14 15:25 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-14 21:15 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-08-14 16:30 -0400
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 10:05 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 08:08 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-14 23:24 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 10:12 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-15 12:54 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 21:06 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-15 13:08 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 17:20 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-15 14:16 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-08-15 15:15 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-15 21:29 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-15 23:26 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-16 10:54 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-16 03:22 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-15 19:56 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-15 18:43 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-16 09:00 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-15 18:55 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-16 09:07 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-16 10:42 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-15 15:29 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-15 21:26 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-16 09:17 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-15 20:09 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-16 11:25 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-15 10:01 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2026-08-15 08:14 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.comNOSPAM> - 2026-08-15 05:28 -0400
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-08-15 14:24 -0400
              Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-12 22:26 +0100
  Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-10 10:41 +0200
    Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-10 11:36 +0200
      Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-10 13:58 +0200
        Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-10 21:36 +0100
        Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-11 10:47 +1000
          Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Silvano <Silvano@noncisonopernessuno.it> - 2026-08-11 09:31 +0200
          Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-11 08:39 +0100
            Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-11 17:54 +1000
              Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-11 09:07 +0100
              Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-11 11:07 +0200
              Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-08-11 22:03 +1200
          Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-11 10:53 +0200
    Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-10 13:11 +0100
      Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-10 15:41 +0200
        Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-11 10:52 +1000
          Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-08-11 06:52 +0100
            Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-11 10:53 +0200
              Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-11 20:33 +1000
            Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-08-11 10:45 +0000
        Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-11 10:32 +0100
          Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-11 15:56 +0200
            Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-11 21:02 +0100
              Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-08-11 22:53 +0200
              Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-12 11:09 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-12 20:14 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-08-12 11:24 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-13 14:45 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-12 10:40 +0000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-13 15:09 +1000
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-12 14:59 +0200
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-12 22:40 +0100
                Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-12 22:38 +0100
    Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) - 2026-08-10 14:22 +0000
      Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-10 16:26 +0000
      Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-11 11:21 +1000
  Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-10 11:05 +0200
    Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-10 11:48 +0200
      Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-10 17:30 +0200
      Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2026-08-10 21:42 +0100
        Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-08-11 11:58 +1000
          Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-11 06:02 +0200
            Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-08-11 09:38 +0000
              Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? Madhu <enometh@meer.net> - 2026-08-12 21:55 +0530
              Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2026-08-13 07:46 +0200
  Re: Why does the Devil need an advocate? "Mr. Chang Man-wai" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-08-13 02:46 +0800

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