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Re: Doees The Shit of Einstein predict any measurement results or not

From	Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity, sci.math
Subject	Re: Doees The Shit of Einstein predict any measurement results or not
Date	2026-08-15 10:51 +0200
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Am Freitag000014, 14.08.2026 um 12:53 schrieb Python:
> Le 14/08/2026 à 12:51, Maciej Woźniak a écrit :
>> On 8/14/2026 10:40 AM, Python wrote:
>>> Le 14/08/2026 à 08:13, Maciej Woźniak a écrit :
>>>> On 8/14/2026 1:57 AM, Python wrote:
>>> ..
>>>>> You claim that GPS uses a physical model different from special
>>>>> relativity.
>>>>>
>>>>> Very well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then one of two things must be true.
>>>>>
>>>>> Either you know that model.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or you do not.
>>>>
>>>> How about - I know its part [one of the  chief
>>>> postulates]?
>>>>
>>>> Once again: your mad Shit is postulating clocks
>>>> to be  identical. GPS (and any sane people as well)
>>>> is  postulating clocks to be synchronized. It's
>>>> not the same and it is excluding each other.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you know it, then you should be able to state at least its 
>>>>> equations
>>>>> or predictions.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you do not know it, then you cannot legitimately claim that it
>>>>> contradicts relativity.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, poor piece of shit - your opinion
>>>> of what I can or not is utterly worthless.
>>>
>>> Maciej,
>>>
>>> There is a simple logical mistake in your argument.
>>>
>>> You keep contrasting
>>>
>>>     "identical clocks"
>>>
>>> with
>>>
>>>     "synchronized clocks"
>>>
>>> as if they were mutually exclusive.
>>>
>>> They are not.
>>
>> Sorry, your idiot guru has proven they are.
>> He was an idiot but he was right in that.
> 
> In fact, your own sentence disproves your claim.
> 
> You say Einstein "proved" that identical clocks and synchronized clocks
> are equivalent.

Usually 'identity' means, that the items are one and the same.

IOW: you are only identical with yourself.

What you mean is 'similarity'.

> 
> Then why did he devote an entire section of his 1905 paper to defining
> how to synchronize clocks?

Einstein made a mistake in that section, because he didn't calculate the 
delay for signals to travel from A to B.

If you see a remote 'clock', you don't see that clock in its present 
state, but in a state some time before.

The difference is the delay, which light needs to travel the distance 
from the remote clock (B) to the observer (at A).

Einstein's position was something like this: if you consider some remote 
clock and see that in a certain state, what you see is real and not what 
the remote clock does.

If you try to synchronize your own clock with the remote one this way, 
you can do that only on one side, because if the other clock would do 
the same thing, than unfortunate things would happen and both clocks run 
backwards after a while.

To achieve a symmetric synchronization, you cannot use Einstein's 
method, but had to measure the delay and introduce it 'by hand' into 
your calculation (what Einstein didn't).

The measurement could be done by a process similar to what is called 
'ping' in the internet.

But Einstein didn't mention that requirement.

TH

> If they were already synchronized by virtue of being identical, that
> section would have been unnecessary.

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