Re: Why Math Rocks

From	Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: Why Math Rocks
Date	2016-04-06 07:50 +0200
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Dne 06/04/2016 v 00:25 Sergio napsal(a):
> On 4/5/2016 4:43 PM, Poutnik wrote:
>> Dne 05/04/2016 v 17:44 Sergio napsal(a):
>>
>>>
>>> one area is encryption, another area is statistics, ...
>>
>> Why do you think mat is weak in these areas ?
>>
> 
> one example;
> 
> in encryption, there are good math techniques that generate excellent 
> codes, but the understanding of how to detect errors that occur to the 
> encrypted part is usally varies from good to poor, to unknown. 
> Calculation of the Probability of Undetected Error, PUE.  The encryption 
> generation uses solid known math, but one cannot tell from that math if 
> it can detect errors very well.  A few codes are fully known, most are 
> unknown. The military has some codes run on special chips (by 
> contractors) to find out by exaustive search this factor.
> 
> the encryption code generators are like a few good known threads in 
> thousands of possabilities.  but the math is not there yet to show the 
> other possabilities are good.
> 



> 
> Statistics, - good book => the Black Swan where it was argued wallstreet 
> was misusing the binomial distribution (book came out before the 2008 
> crash).  (wall street was and still is)
> 
> in general, I think math applications has a hard time with 
> multi-dimentional problems (or larger than 5 variables)

> 
> 
> take a fastest route + minimize gasoline for Uber, over a 2 dimentional 
> city, with streets and pickup times, and drop off time locations.
> 	for 1 car, 10 pickups(trips) during the day how does the computer 
> determine the solution.
> 	for 271 cars, 4821 pickups,   etc...


> 
> this "bleeding edge" of math is what is being published in the 
> professional journals today.  like going from the known, (math works 
> fine) into the unknown (math starts to degenerate, solution sets vague...)

That all may be a question of point of view.
Is math weak or is the problem difficult ?
Math is not a magic wand to say its magic is weak
if it cannot do this or that.

-- 
Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )
Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.

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Why Math Rocks Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-01 19:01 -0500
  Re: Why Math Rocks jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-02 01:22 +0000
  Re: Why Math Rocks Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-02 06:14 +0000
    Re: Why Math Rocks Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 08:23 +0200
      Re: Why Math Rocks Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-02 12:43 +0000
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