Re: Why Math Rocks

From	Sergio <invalid@invalid.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: Why Math Rocks
Date	2016-04-05 17:25 -0500
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On 4/5/2016 4:43 PM, Poutnik wrote:
> Dne 05/04/2016 v 17:44 Sergio napsal(a):
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>> one area is encryption, another area is statistics, ...
>
> Why do you think mat is weak in these areas ?
>

one example;

in encryption, there are good math techniques that generate excellent 
codes, but the understanding of how to detect errors that occur to the 
encrypted part is usally varies from good to poor, to unknown. 
Calculation of the Probability of Undetected Error, PUE.  The encryption 
generation uses solid known math, but one cannot tell from that math if 
it can detect errors very well.  A few codes are fully known, most are 
unknown. The military has some codes run on special chips (by 
contractors) to find out by exaustive search this factor.

the encryption code generators are like a few good known threads in 
thousands of possabilities.  but the math is not there yet to show the 
other possabilities are good.

Statistics, - good book => the Black Swan where it was argued wallstreet 
was misusing the binomial distribution (book came out before the 2008 
crash).  (wall street was and still is)

in general, I think math applications has a hard time with 
multi-dimentional problems (or larger than 5 variables)

take a fastest route + minimize gasoline for Uber, over a 2 dimentional 
city, with streets and pickup times, and drop off time locations.
	for 1 car, 10 pickups(trips) during the day how does the computer 
determine the solution.
	for 271 cars, 4821 pickups,   etc...

this "bleeding edge" of math is what is being published in the 
professional journals today.  like going from the known, (math works 
fine) into the unknown (math starts to degenerate, solution sets vague...)

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Why Math Rocks Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-01 19:01 -0500
  Re: Why Math Rocks jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-02 01:22 +0000
  Re: Why Math Rocks Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-02 06:14 +0000
    Re: Why Math Rocks Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 08:23 +0200
      Re: Why Math Rocks Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-02 12:43 +0000
        Re: Why Math Rocks Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 15:13 +0200
          Re: Why Math Rocks Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 15:38 +0200
            Re: Why Math Rocks Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 15:46 +0200
          Re: Why Math Rocks Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-02 18:48 +0000
            Re: Why Math Rocks Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 21:12 +0200
              Re: Why Math Rocks Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-02 19:28 +0000
                Re: Why Math Rocks Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 22:27 +0200
                Re: Why Math Rocks Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-04 10:55 +0000
                Re: Why Math Rocks Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 19:19 +0200
                Re: Why Math Rocks Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-05 08:53 +0000
                Re: Why Math Rocks Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-05 10:44 -0500
                Re: Why Math Rocks Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 23:43 +0200
                Re: Why Math Rocks Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-05 17:25 -0500
                Re: Why Math Rocks Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 07:50 +0200
                Re: Why Math Rocks Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 23:16 +0200
                Re: Why Math Rocks Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 17:10 -0500
                Re: Why Math Rocks Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-04-10 18:44 +0000
                Re: Why Math Rocks Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 20:49 +0200
                Re: Why Math Rocks Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 20:58 +0200
        Re: Why Math Rocks Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 16:23 +0200
    Re: Why Math Rocks Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 08:02 -0700
      Re: Why Math Rocks benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 12:26 -0400
  Why Math Rocks HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 06:18 -0700
    Re: Why Math Rocks benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 12:14 -0400
      Re: Why Math Rocks Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-04-03 10:33 +0200
        Re: Why Math Rocks HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 04:31 -0700
          Re: Why Math Rocks Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-04-03 14:27 +0200
            Re: Why Math Rocks HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 07:29 -0700
              Re: Why Math Rocks benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 00:49 -0400
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                Re: Why Math Rocks benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 13:50 -0400
              Re: Why Math Rocks benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 13:46 -0400
  Re: Why Math Rocks Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-04-02 09:02 -0500
    Re: Why Math Rocks Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 16:30 +0200
    Re: Why Math Rocks benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-04-02 12:27 -0400

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