Re: If you can't measure it, is it still science ? !

From	moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: If you can't measure it, is it still science ? !
Date	2016-04-03 05:04 +0000
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Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> writes:

>According to general relativity, 
>no path in spacetime can leave the singularity within a black hole;
>so we humans can't see anything there.

Yes, as I said before, all our information about the position/momentum of
a black hole's singularity would have to come from outside the event 
horizon.  So, information about its position/momentum are likely to be
_less_ accurate than the Heisenberg limit.  Which it certainly allows.

So where is the violation of the HUP?

>The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle puts _less_ restrictions
>on the measurement of the singularity... which is right ?

>They don't agree.

I don't know what the heck you're trying to say here.

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