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Re: New kid in town!

From "Michael Landenberger" <spameimer052006@arcor.de>
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Subject Re: New kid in town!
Date 2016-03-27 11:03 +0200
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"Jörg Tewes" schrieb am 27.03.2016 um 01:44:19:

> Michael Bode schrieb:

>> Was ist denn so schlimm daran, wenn die Klugen beim nachkontrollieren
>> eine gewisse Vorsicht walten lassen?
 
> Das geht nicht, die Klugen müssen da drauf klicken, die Word-Datei in
> Word öffnen, Makros ausführen lassen und danach auch noch die UAC
> Abfrage abnicken. Ansonsten wäre man ja kein Kluger.

Eine UAC-Abfrage muss nicht notwendigerweise kommen. Wenn eine ausführbare
Datei *nicht* in ein geschütztes Verzeichnis wie z. B. den Programmordner
kopiert wird, sondern einfach in den Benutzerordner, und auch von dort
gestartet wird, kommt keine UAC-Abfrage. Speziell bei Crypto-Trojanern ist das
in der Regel der Fall, denn die müssen nicht installiert werden, sondern
zwecks Verschlüsselung der Dateien (und zur anschließenden Anzeige der
"Erfolgsmeldung") nur einmalig laufen. Es muss auch nichts in geschützte
Bereiche der Registry eingetragen werden (auch das würde eine UAC-Abfrage
provozieren).

Allerdings muss man zur Ausführung der Malware die anderen von dir genannten
Schutzmaßnahmen incl. Brain 2016 unterlaufen, was aber klugen Menschen eher
selten passiert.

BTW: was passiert eigentlich, wenn man ein Word-Dokument, das VBA-Makros
enthält, mit Libre Office oder WordPad öffnet?

Gruß

Michael

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New kid in town! "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-03-24 17:32 +0100
  Re: New kid in town! Beate Goebel <blabaetsch@usenet.arcornews.de> - 2016-03-24 17:37 +0100
    Re: New kid in town! "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-03-24 17:46 +0100
      Re: New kid in town! Beate Goebel <blabaetsch@usenet.arcornews.de> - 2016-03-24 18:15 +0100
        Re: New kid in town! Peter Faust <peter.faust-solingen@t-online.de> - 2016-03-24 19:22 +0100
          Re: New kid in town! Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-03-24 11:32 -0700
      Re: New kid in town! Rainer Knaepper <rainerk@smial.prima.de> - 2016-03-25 12:39 +0100
        Re: New kid in town! Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-03-25 13:09 +0100
          Re: New kid in town! Rainer Knaepper <rainerk@smial.prima.de> - 2016-03-25 15:15 +0100
            Re: New kid in town! Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-03-25 16:04 +0100
              Re: New kid in town! Rainer Knaepper <rainerk@smial.prima.de> - 2016-03-25 18:36 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-03-25 18:48 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! Rainer Knaepper <rainerk@smial.prima.de> - 2016-03-25 19:59 +0100
            Re: New kid in town! Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-03-25 16:54 +0100
              Re: New kid in town! "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-03-25 17:02 +0100
              Re: New kid in town! Peter Mc Donough <mcd-mail-lists@gmx.net> - 2016-03-25 17:07 +0100
        Re: New kid in town! "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-03-25 13:42 +0100
          Re: New kid in town! Rainer Knaepper <rainerk@smial.prima.de> - 2016-03-25 15:16 +0100
            Re: New kid in town! Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-03-25 14:36 +0000
              Re: New kid in town! Rainer Knaepper <rainerk@smial.prima.de> - 2016-03-25 18:23 +0100
          Re: New kid in town! Jürgen Schick <expires-2016-03-31@nurfuerspam.de> - 2016-03-25 17:49 +0100
        Re: New kid in town! Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-03-25 14:02 +0100
    Re: New kid in town! Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-03-24 18:03 +0100
      Re: New kid in town! Beate Goebel <blabaetsch@usenet.arcornews.de> - 2016-03-24 18:12 +0100
  Re: New kid in town! Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-03-24 11:34 -0700
    Re: New kid in town! Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-03-24 18:50 +0000
  Re: New kid in town! Peter Mc Donough <mcd-mail-lists@gmx.net> - 2016-03-24 21:40 +0100
    Re: New kid in town! Michael Pachta <mipani@gmx.de> - 2016-03-25 08:15 +0100
      Re: New kid in town! Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-03-25 04:17 -0700
        Re: New kid in town! Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-03-25 11:21 +0000
          Re: New kid in town! Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-03-25 04:44 -0700
            Re: New kid in town! Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-03-25 11:57 +0000
              Re: New kid in town! "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-03-25 13:46 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-03-25 14:07 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-03-25 16:12 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-03-25 16:48 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-03-25 18:46 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-03-25 20:06 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-03-25 22:18 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-03-29 08:25 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-03-29 11:59 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-03-29 14:20 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! v_borchert@despammed.com (Volker Borchert) - 2016-03-29 20:00 +0000
                Re: New kid in town! Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-03-30 02:01 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-03-25 21:33 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-03-25 22:43 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-03-26 17:04 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-03-29 08:26 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-03-25 21:39 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-03-25 22:00 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-03-25 22:46 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-03-26 17:05 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! Peter Faust <peter.faust-solingen@t-online.de> - 2016-03-26 17:18 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2016-03-26 17:58 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-03-29 08:28 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-03-26 07:14 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-03-26 13:40 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-03-27 00:45 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-03-26 17:11 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-03-26 17:25 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-03-26 18:10 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-03-29 08:32 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-03-29 08:31 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-03-26 09:04 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-03-26 10:42 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-03-26 10:56 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-03-26 11:08 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-03-27 00:44 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! "Michael Landenberger" <spameimer052006@arcor.de> - 2016-03-27 11:03 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-03-27 11:29 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! "Michael Landenberger" <spameimer052006@arcor.de> - 2016-03-27 12:19 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-03-27 11:17 +0000
                Re: New kid in town! Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-03-27 16:05 +0000
                Re: New kid in town! Ingo Paschke <ipaschke@lpclabs.de> - 2016-03-27 18:12 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-03-27 18:17 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Ingo Paschke <ipaschke@lpclabs.de> - 2016-03-27 18:31 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-03-27 19:47 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Ingo Paschke <ipaschke@lpclabs.de> - 2016-03-27 20:17 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-03-27 21:00 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-03-27 21:32 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Ingo Paschke <ipaschke@lpclabs.de> - 2016-03-27 21:42 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-03-27 21:47 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-03-27 22:22 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! "Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras" <ralph@schmid.xxx> - 2016-03-29 08:35 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-03-27 12:19 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-03-27 21:11 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-03-27 11:34 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! "Michael Landenberger" <spameimer052006@arcor.de> - 2016-03-27 12:22 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-03-27 12:31 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-03-27 10:41 +0000
                Re: New kid in town! "Michael Landenberger" <spameimer052006@arcor.de> - 2016-03-27 12:47 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-03-27 12:52 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! "Michael Landenberger" <spameimer052006@arcor.de> - 2016-03-27 20:11 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-03-27 20:17 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! v_borchert@despammed.com (Volker Borchert) - 2016-03-27 23:02 +0000
                Re: New kid in town! Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-03-28 09:21 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-03-28 14:25 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! v_borchert@despammed.com (Volker Borchert) - 2016-03-28 16:08 +0000
                Re: New kid in town! Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-03-27 20:55 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Karsten Düsterloh <trash@tprac.de> - 2016-03-28 00:06 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-03-28 08:38 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! v_borchert@despammed.com (Volker Borchert) - 2016-03-27 22:56 +0000
                Re: New kid in town! Peter Mc Donough <mcd-mail-lists@gmx.net> - 2016-03-27 12:42 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-03-27 12:20 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Peter Mc Donough <mcd-mail-lists@gmx.net> - 2016-03-27 13:27 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-03-27 13:25 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-03-27 11:28 +0000
                Re: New kid in town! Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-03-27 15:36 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-03-27 18:44 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-03-27 21:11 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Andreas Fecht <forum@aftec.de> - 2016-03-26 13:37 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-03-26 13:48 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-26 12:33 +0000
                Re: New kid in town! Michael Pachta <mipani@gmx.de> - 2016-03-25 16:52 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! Andreas Fecht <forum@aftec.de> - 2016-03-25 19:30 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-03-26 16:32 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-03-26 16:36 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-03-26 16:54 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-03-26 23:05 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-03-25 19:48 +0100
                Re: New kid in town! Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-03-25 20:01 +0100
      Re: New kid in town! Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-03-25 12:37 +0100
        Re: New kid in town! Michael Pachta <mipani@gmx.de> - 2016-03-25 14:38 +0100
  Re: New kid in town! "Michael Landenberger" <spameimer052006@arcor.de> - 2016-03-25 00:05 +0100
  Re: New kid in town! Maik Koenig <usenetspam@maikkoenig.de> - 2016-03-25 02:17 +0100
  Re: New kid in town! Rainer Knaepper <rainerk@smial.prima.de> - 2016-03-25 12:33 +0100
    Re: New kid in town! "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-03-25 13:23 +0100
      Re: New kid in town! Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-03-25 13:25 +0100
        Re: New kid in town! Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-03-25 14:01 +0100
          Re: New kid in town! Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-03-25 14:08 +0100
            Re: New kid in town! Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-03-25 22:45 +0100
              Re: New kid in town! Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-03-27 12:02 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Rainer Knaepper <rainerk@smial.prima.de> - 2016-03-27 14:13 +0200
                Re: New kid in town! Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-03-29 16:42 +0200

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