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Re: Developers Not Programmers

From DFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Developers Not Programmers
Date 2016-03-22 21:03 -0400
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On 3/22/2016 12:59 PM, Ezekiel wrote:
> "DFS" <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in message
> news:ncrt2d$l10$1@dont-email.me...
>> On 3/22/2016 8:25 AM, shitv wrote:
>>>>> some dumb fsck wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You worship a language that still has no String data type
>>>>>> (null-terminated array of chars...  heh!).  That didn't
>>>>>> have booleans until 25 years after it was introduced?
>>>
>>> VB "programmer" and all-around ignoramus Dumfsck is ridiculing C,
>>> the coolest programming language there is?
>
> LOL - turdv knows absolutely nothing about C and unlikely knows
> anything about programming. He's a sorry ass poser calling C the
> "coolest programing language there is."
>
>
>> C is cool because of low-level functionality, speed, portability
>> and it's *nix heritage.  But the coolest?  That's a stretch.
>>
>> To me, Haskell or Python or Julia look the most cool right now.
>
> I primarily work in C/C++ but my vote for coolest right now would be
> Java.

Yes, it's also very good.

Here's a detailed comparison of Java and C++:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Java_and_C%2B%2B




>>> What a shitwit.
>>
>> That you are, with your nutcase Zeke obsession.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hey, Dumfsck, you should ask your pal Ezekreep if I ever really
>>> thought that compile time warnings will tell you if your program
>>> will work as intended.
>>
>>
>> You claimed it was stupid to rely on testing to know if the program
>> works:
>>
>> =====================================================================
>>
>>
"This reminds me of a Relf classic.
>>
>> "Testing is how you know if the code works or not, not compile-time
>> warnings." -  Jeff Relf
>>
>> Heh.  One doesn't need to be a pro, to know how stupid that is..."
>> =====================================================================
>>
>>
shitv, Jun 2014
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/Zyqzyntxo-k/uJQf6Epp5aAJ
>>
>>
>>
>>
Your quote is unambiguous, and unambiguously stupid.  A truly /classic/
>> bit of "advocate" idiocy.
>
> Like I said before, if turdv said that in a normal post it would be
> stupid beyond belief.
>
> What truly makes this hilarious is that turdv decided to start a new
> thread with that post.

Actually, it was part of the 'Beware of GCC warnings' thread.  If you
click the link, then hit the Google back button you'll see.


> And it was fun watching him crash and burn trying to ridicule Jeff
> Relf on something that turdv is clearly too ignorant to understand.

Relf usually defends his strange coding style, but about 10 years ago
he admitted:

"Despite all appearances to the contrary, I'd much rather that no one 
ran X.CPP, as it's a total embarrassment, and I've hardly touched it
for several weeks ( too busy trolling Cola )."

and

DFS: "What are you gonna do when someone inherits your program?  You're
not going to just let it die, are you?"

Relf: "Yes, absolutely, I'd tell the next poor fool to totally rewrite it."



> Now turdv is a sorry-ass poser who's calling "C" the coolest
> programming language there is. He wouldn't recognize C source code if
> he saw it.

C seems to be the best language for writing obfuscated code in.

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    the umpteen layers of abstraction inside of the Linux DE John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 06:39 -0700
  Re: Developers Not Programmers "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-03-19 09:06 -0400
    Re: Developers Not Programmers 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-03-20 20:33 +0000
  Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-20 15:22 -0400
    Re: Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-20 20:01 +0000
    Re: Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-20 20:21 +0000
      Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-21 12:21 -0400
        Re: Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-21 21:47 +0000
          Re: Developers Not Programmers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-03-21 17:48 -0400
            Re: Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-21 22:28 +0000
            Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-21 20:06 -0400
          Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-22 00:35 +0100
            Re: Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-22 09:38 +0000
              Re: Developers Not Programmers "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-03-22 06:53 -0400
                Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-22 13:11 +0100
                Re: Developers Not Programmers "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-03-22 09:23 -0400
                Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-22 14:41 +0100
                Re: Developers Not Programmers "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-03-22 09:44 -0400
                Re: Developers Not Programmers "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-03-22 09:51 -0400
                Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-22 11:54 -0400
                Re: Developers Not Programmers "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-03-22 12:11 -0400
                Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-22 22:36 -0400
                Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-22 20:28 +0100
                Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-22 22:48 -0400
              Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-22 13:05 +0100
                Re: Developers Not Programmers Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-03-22 14:11 +0100
                Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-22 14:39 +0100
              Re: Developers Not Programmers vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-03-22 15:57 +0000
                Re: Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-22 21:40 +0000
                Re: Developers Not Programmers vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-03-22 22:25 +0000
                Re: Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-23 02:47 +0000
                Re: Developers Not Programmers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-03-23 05:51 -0400
                Re: Developers Not Programmers vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-03-23 23:38 +0000
                Re: Developers Not Programmers vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-03-24 00:08 +0000
                Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-24 14:04 +0100
                Re: Developers Not Programmers vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-03-23 23:37 +0000
                Re: Developers Not Programmers "Fabian Russell" <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-23 13:36 +0100
                Re: Developers Not Programmers vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-03-23 23:57 +0000
                Re: Developers Not Programmers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-03-24 06:45 -0500
                Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-23 10:26 -0400
                Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-23 22:07 -0400
                Re: Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-24 10:11 +0000
                Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-24 11:32 -0400
                Re: Developers Not Programmers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-03-24 21:27 +0000
                Re: Developers Not Programmers vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-03-24 21:40 +0000
                Re: Developers Not Programmers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-03-24 21:50 +0000
                Re: Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-25 21:56 +0000
                Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-25 19:43 -0400
                Re: Developers Not Programmers Nobody <nobody@nowhere.net> - 2016-03-25 19:49 -0400
                Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-26 01:05 +0100
                Re: Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-26 14:04 +0000
                Re: Get a clue ! Microsoft doesn't use UTF_16 exclusively. Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-26 14:42 +0000
                Re: Get a clue ! Microsoft doesn't use UTF_16 exclusively. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-03-26 12:27 -0400
                Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-26 22:42 +0100
                Re: Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-26 22:25 +0000
                Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-27 00:42 +0100
                Re: Developers Not Programmers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-26 20:50 -0700
                Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-27 09:52 +0200
                Re: Developers Not Programmers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-27 14:56 -0700
                Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.dead> - 2016-03-26 17:36 -0500
                Re: Developers Not Programmers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-03-26 20:09 -0400
                Re: Developers Not Programmers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-26 20:52 -0700
                Re: Developers Not Programmers owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-03-26 02:42 +0000
            Re: Developers Not Programmers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-03-22 07:25 -0500
              Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-22 12:52 -0400
                Re: Developers Not Programmers "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-03-22 12:59 -0400
                Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-22 21:03 -0400
                Re: Developers Not Programmers "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-03-23 10:38 -0400
                Re: Developers Not Programmers Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-03-23 02:09 +0100
                Re: Developers Not Programmers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-03-23 05:50 -0400
                Re: Developers Not Programmers Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-03-23 11:33 +0100
                Re: Developers Not Programmers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-03-23 07:04 -0500
                Re: Developers Not Programmers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-03-23 08:49 -0400
                Re: Developers Not Programmers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-03-23 09:50 -0500
                Re: Developers Not Programmers Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-03-24 21:48 +0000
                Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-25 11:11 -0400
                Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-29 10:17 -0400
                Re: Developers Not Programmers "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-03-23 10:01 -0400
                Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-23 23:57 -0400
          Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-22 12:58 -0400
            Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-22 20:20 +0100
              Re: Developers Not Programmers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-03-22 14:46 -0500
              Re: Developers Not Programmers Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-22 15:04 -0700
              Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-22 21:09 -0400
    Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-20 22:42 +0100
      Re: Developers Not Programmers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-03-20 19:22 -0400
        Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-21 01:01 +0100
          Re: Developers Not Programmers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-03-21 08:18 -0400
            Re: Developers Not Programmers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-03-21 15:03 +0100
        Re: Developers Not Programmers Nobody <nobody@nowhere.net> - 2016-03-20 21:08 -0400
      Re: Developers Not Programmers DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-20 21:07 -0400
  Re: Developers Not Programmers Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-03-22 14:25 +0000
    Re: Developers Not Programmers "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-03-25 14:36 -0400

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