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Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks !

From Snowshoe <no@spam.please>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks !
Date 2016-03-21 21:02 -0400
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On 3/21/2016 6:03 PM, Tom Roberts wrote:
> On 3/21/16 3/21/16 - 4:06 PM, Snowshoe wrote:
>> Let's say I am riding a GPS satellite with a frequency counter and a
>> radio. The
>> GPS is transmitting at 10.2299999954326 MHz and this is received on
>> the ground
>> at 10.23 MHz.
>
> Not really. There is the Doppler effect that makes the ground receiver
> receive slightly higher than 10.23 MHz when the satellite is
> approaching, and slightly lower than 10.23 MHz when it is receding. The
> long-term average, however, is 10.2300000000000 MHz., We KNOW this
> because GPS time remains within a few ns of UTC modulo leap seconds.

Apologies. I meant to disregard the Doppler Effect (I forgot about it) 
so add the additional assumption the satellite is passing directly over 
the earth transmitter/receiver in a circular orbit and is neither 
approaching or receding from it at the moment of measurement.

>
>
>> Now, someone on the ground transmits at 10.23 MHz. My radio picks up
>> the signal
>> and the frequency counter displays the frequency.
>>
>> What does it display? 10.2299999954326 MHz? 10.23 MHz? Something else?
>
> Something else, due to the same Doppler effect described above. But the
> long-term average will be 10.2299999954326 MHz. We KNOW this because the
> satellite clock remains within a few ns of GPS time.

>> I will guess "Something Else". Why? For those on the ground, the
>> altitude of the
>> satellite tends to increase the frequency while its motion tends to
>> decrease the
>> frequency (moving clocks tick slower). These partially offset. But on the
>> satellite, I see the ground clock tick slower due to being in a
>> gravity well and
>> tick slower because the ground clock is moving (relative to the
>> satellite), both
>> decreasing the observed frequency.
>
> Thinking "moving clocks tick slower" is not only wrong [#], it induces
> mistakes like yours.

Yes, poor wording by myself. But since the ground clock is measured as 
being slower by the satellite by being in a gravity well, and is 
measured as being slower because of the time dilation from the relative 
motion, should it not be measured as being slower (reduced frequency) 
overall?  (again, disregard Doppler, the satellite is directly over the 
ground station at time of measurement)

> The "time dilation" of SR depends on a SPECIFIC
> measurement procedure, which does not apply to this physical situation.

Could you explain?

> For this case, you need to compute both the gravitational effect and the
> Doppler effect due to motion. For the long-term average the latter will
> be the "time dilation" of SR.
>
> For GPS satellites, the "gravitational effect" is ~ 43 us/day, and the
> "time dilation" effect is ~ -7 us/day; they sum to ~ 36 us/day. The
> satellites' clocks are modified by ~ -36 us/day (i.e. they tick slower
> than a standard clock).
>
>      [#] See my many posts on this in this newsgroup. A moving clock
>      ticks at its usual rate, but using the usual measurement
>      procedure [@] it will be MEASURED to tick more slowly. But a
>      SIGNAL from the clock can be received either faster or slower,
>      because the Doppler effect can be larger than "time dilation".
>
>      [@] This involved using two clocks synchronized in an inertial
>      frame and pre-positioned along the path of the moving clock.
>      As the moving clock passes each one, the values of both clocks
>      are noted and then subtracted for comparison.
>
>
> Tom Roberts
>
>
>

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                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-04-16 08:19 +0200
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 13:21 -0700
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 00:37 -0700
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 15:11 -0700
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 21:40 -0700
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 22:25 -0700
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 05:16 -0700
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-04-08 11:23 -0500
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-04-08 22:32 +0200
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! HGW <hw@...> - 2016-04-10 13:16 +1000
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-09 21:15 -0700
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 10:32 -0700
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 21:37 -0700
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 17:51 -0700
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 22:47 -0700
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 00:45 -0700
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-04-12 01:10 -0700
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! HGW <hw@...> - 2016-04-12 09:12 +1000
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                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 06:42 -0700
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-04-07 07:34 -0700
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-04-08 11:04 -0500
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-04-08 22:29 +0200
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-04-09 07:19 -0700
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-04-09 07:39 -0700
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-04-09 12:45 -0700
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-03-08 11:11 -0600
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! Rafael Valls Hidalgo-Gato <rvalls162@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 13:41 -0800
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-08 23:41 -0800
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 22:37 -0800
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-03-09 20:33 -0600
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 22:45 -0800
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-03-09 23:02 -0800
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-03-06 08:57 -0600
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                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-06 17:09 +0100
                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-03-06 08:31 -0800
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                Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks ! paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-03-06 09:38 -0800
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