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Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks !

From "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Einsteinian Simultaneity and syncronism : no thanks !
Date 2016-03-17 15:53 +0100
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On 16.03.2016 18:12, Koobee Wublee wrote:
>
> This design guide was written when they were acquiring
> signals from just three satellites.  After four satellites,
> there is no need to do this insane thing.
> Before, GPS would never work.  After, GPS works great.
> Get on with the facts instead of burying your head in
> the cesspool of mysticism known as GR.  <shrug>

Do I have to explain why I find this hilarious ?  :-D

This is the "design guide":

http://www.gps.gov/technical/icwg/IS-GPS-200H.pdf
Approved 23 Jan 2014

  quote from Chapter 1 Introduction (page 1):
  <<
   INTERFACE SPECIFICATION IS-GPS-200

   This Interface Specification (IS) defines the requirements
   related to the interface between the Space Segment (SS) of
   the Global Positioning System (GPS) and the navigation
   User Segment (US) of the GPS for radio frequency (RF)
   link 1 (L1) and link 2 (L2).

   The Interface Control Contractor (ICC) designated by
   the government is responsible for the basic preparation,
   approval coordination, distribution, retention, and
   Interface Control Working Group (ICWG) coordination
   of the IS in accordance with GP-03-001.
  >>

  quote from Chapter 3.3.1.1 Frequency Plan (page 13):
  <<
   The carrier frequencies for the L1 and L2 signals shall be
   coherently derived from a common frequency source within the SV.
   The nominal frequency of this source -- as it appears to
   an observer on the ground -- is 10.23 MHz.
   The SV carrier frequency and clock rates -- as they would
   appear to an observer located in the SV -- are offset to
   compensate for relativistic effects. The clock rates are
   offset by \Delta f/f = - 4.4647E-10, equivalent to a change
   in the P-code chipping rate of 10.23 MHz offset by
   a \Delta f = - 4.5674E-3 Hz.
   This is equal to 10.2299999954326 MHz.
  >>

GP-03-001:
http://www.gps.gov/technical/icwg/charter.pdf

It will be blatantly obvious for any thinking person with
a minimum of technical knowledge that:

If Rockwell International and Lockheed Martin didn't build
the GPS SVs in strict accordance with the specification of
the interface between the space segment (GPS satellites) and
the user segment (GPS receivers), then it would be impossible
for Germin, TomTom, Magellan and all the other manufacturers
of GPS receivers to build receivers that could communicate with
the SVs.

A salesman may fail to recognise the significance of
an interface specification, though.
An engineer or a physicist - never!


-- 
Paul

https://paulba.no/

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