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Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine.

From	HGW <hw@...>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine.
Date	2016-03-21 12:13 +1100
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On 21/03/16 11:27, Gary Harnagel wrote:
> On Sunday, March 20, 2016 at 1:55:47 PM UTC-6, HGW wrote:
>>
>> I was merely pointing out his stupidity.
>
> No, you didn't.  You only proved your dishonesty.
>
>> If what he said was right,
>
> Nope, you didn't understand what I said.  I didn't say that positrons had
> negative mass, that was solely an invention of your mind.
>
>> he would certainly be able to achieve not only perpetual motion but also
>> spontaneous and eternal acceleration.
>
> YOU are the one that brought up  anti-gravity perpetual motion and then
> tried to blame the concept on "dingleberries."  I said IF positrons had
> negative mass, positrons would chase electrons all over the universe.
> That they don't do so demonstrates that positrons have the same kind of
> mass as electrons do. they did have negative mass, by E = m*c^2 there
> would be no energy at all in the combination.  I hesitate to even say
> that because you will probably scramble it up in your brain and come out
> with another stupid personal attack.  But what the hey, let the cards
> fall where they may ....

You don't get it.
Your 'proof' that positrons DO NOT have negative mass fails because if 
they did and your proof was valid, you would be able to make a perpetual 
motion machine. In other words, the equation you provided to back up 
your claim does not apply.

So the high probability that positrons have zero mass remains...and  a 
photon can be a massless e+e- combination.

Thread

The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-19 09:30 +1100
  Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 16:09 -0700
    Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-19 00:23 +0100
      Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 16:40 -0700
        Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-03-19 08:51 +0100
  Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-03-18 17:23 -0700
    Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-20 03:43 +1100
    Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-03-20 12:11 -0500
      Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-21 06:46 +1100
  Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. pcardinale@volcanomail.com - 2016-03-19 07:26 -0700
    Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-20 03:50 +1100
      Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-19 11:56 -0700
        Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. cryptoclearance <cryptoclearance@cryptoclearance.net> - 2016-03-19 19:48 +0000
          Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-19 22:42 +0100
            Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. cryptoclearance <cryptoclearance@cryptoclearance.net> - 2016-03-19 22:10 +0000
      Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. pcardinale@volcanomail.com - 2016-03-20 08:20 -0700
        Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-21 06:55 +1100
          Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-20 17:27 -0700
            Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-21 12:13 +1100
              Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-20 20:48 -0700
              Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-03-22 21:09 +0100
              Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-22 23:19 +0100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-23 09:46 +1100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-03-23 09:43 -0500
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-23 19:11 +0100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 13:15 -0500
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-23 20:08 +0100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 14:19 -0500
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-24 09:34 +1100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-24 02:05 +0100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-24 13:11 +1100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-24 20:54 +0100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-03-25 09:09 +1100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-24 23:54 +0100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-25 22:38 +1100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-25 13:59 +0100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-25 21:45 +0100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <hgw@...> - 2016-03-26 14:33 +1100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-26 05:00 +0100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <xxx@....> - 2016-03-26 15:18 +1100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Bojana Kudryavtseva <bojkud@rtyn56h67i.org> - 2016-03-26 10:18 +0000
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-26 14:30 +0100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-26 15:53 +0100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-27 20:48 +1100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <xxx@....> - 2016-03-27 10:08 +1100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 09:48 -0500
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Bojana Kudryavtseva <bojkud@rtyn56h67i.org> - 2016-03-26 10:17 +0000
      Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-22 12:35 +1100
        Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 07:22 -0500
        Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-25 22:23 +1100
          Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-26 15:48 +1100
            Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <xxx@....> - 2016-03-27 10:11 +1100
              Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-03-27 13:11 +1100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-27 20:40 +1100
              Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 09:49 -0500
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-03-28 21:53 +0200
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <xxx@....> - 2016-03-29 09:54 +1100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <xxx@....> - 2016-03-29 09:58 +1100
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 08:24 -0500
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-04-08 17:18 +1000
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-08 08:40 -0700
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-09 08:36 +1000
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-08 20:38 -0700
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <HGW@....> - 2016-04-09 19:54 +1000
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-09 05:29 -0700
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-04-10 18:07 +1000
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-10 06:04 -0700
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-04-10 19:46 -0700
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-11 05:14 -0700
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-04-12 08:03 +1000
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-11 15:56 -0700
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <hw@...> - 2016-04-12 19:48 +1000
                Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-12 05:29 -0700
  Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 09:38 -0500
    Re: The Dingleberry Anti-Gravity, Perpetual Motion Machine. HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-03-20 03:44 +1100

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